(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[6300]
PW[White Will Brooks 3d]PB[Black Alex Selby 3d]WR[5d]BR[3d]DT[2007-06-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/ BGA Challengers League Rd 3]
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;W[dd]
;B[pq]
;W[dp]
;B[fc]
;W[od]
;B[mc]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[pc]
;B[re]
;W[of]
;B[pg]C[bgachamps [?\]: bgachamps: Black has used 16m, W has used 5m bgachamps: Overtime is 15stones in 5m
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;W[ic]
;B[ne]
;W[oe]
;B[lf]
;W[dc]
;B[og]
;W[nf]
;B[mh]
;W[le]C[TheThing [?\]: is this a live game?
bgachamps [?\]: Yes
bgachamps [?\]: http://www.britgo.org/tournaments/
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;B[ke]
;W[me]
;B[kd]
;W[kf]C[bgachamps [?\]: Black has used 32m White used 16m
HikaruShin [6k\]: hm
HikaruShin [6k\]: what kind of demo is this :) ?
bgachamps [?\]: This is a live game recording from the Challengers league 
bgachamps [?\]: see User Info for Web Links
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;B[mf]C[Violence [?\]: 3d's?
bgachamps [?\]: yes
Violence [?\]: : / they at least inflated 3ds? I've never heard of these guys
Nyanjilla [-\]: that's all right, Violence---they probably haven't heard of you either
KuudeeKun [3k\]: wasent that little mean nyan :P
bgachamps [?\]: http://www.britgo.org/rating/list.html
Lebertran [1d\]: is this the 3rd round?
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;W[md]
;B[nc]
;W[nd]
;B[lc]C[bgachamps [?\]: yes - results from yesterday in the user info
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;W[jf]C[daladim [2k\]: w d17 looks like a loosing move
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;B[ng]
;W[rb]C[kosui [8k\]: this stones are alive no???
daladim [2k\]: yup
Keylan [6k\]: are they?
Keylan [6k\]: seems difficult
kosui [8k\]: yezs
kosui [8k\]: yes
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: can we discuss here?
letum [3k\]: I think its a ko
kosui [8k\]: yep
Shikasta [4k\]: is there a record of mathews game against alex?
kosui [8k\]: no!*
kosui [8k\]: there isnt any ko!!
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: q1
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: white to live
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: no ko
Bolos [4k\]: Alive : Q 18 - R 18 - P 18 - T 18 
kosui [8k\]: but if b play p17
Keylan [6k\]: and what about T18?
letum [3k\]: and If B starts with T18?
kosui [8k\]: w q16
kosui [8k\]: w s19
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;B[id]C[letum [3k\]: t18 s19 q18 p18 p17 q16 p19 
letum [3k\]: if white S19
hulken [1d\]: w is alive...
kosui [8k\]: yes
hulken [1d\]: just let it go =)
kosui [8k\]: w is alive
dangodan [2d\]: t18 s19 p18 q18 q19 
Uberdude [1d\]: btw, ww is twillo on kgs
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: black to play
ByanGwok02 [4k\]: white live without ko
letum [3k\]: dangoadan what if B q18 instead of p18 ?
Keylan [6k\]: I was thinkng h
Keylan [6k\]: the same
letum [3k\]: as I read it Q18 kills
dangodan [2d\]: why should he when p18 works
slownet [1d\]: b losing r16
Meloku [?\]: strange opening
Uberdude [1d\]: remember w has r14 placement
Uberdude [1d\]: to get q16 in sente
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;W[hc]C[Meloku [?\]: is this the first board? ^o)
letum [3k\]: true I missed R14
letum [3k\]: then white alive
Uberdude [1d\]: these aren't the strongest players
Uberdude [1d\]: it's all play all
dangodan [2d\]: bga 3 dans are not so strong
gacua [2k\]: b= british?
Nihilst [-\]: White is kgs 4d
dangodan [2d\]: you dont have to be strong to be kgs 4d
Violence [?\]: : /
genjuro [4d\]: you have to be stronger than a KGS 2d :P
Violence [?\]: Who's the British Champion again?
Uberdude [1d\]: he might even be kgs 3d
Violence [?\]: Bei Ge?
Uberdude [1d\]: violence bei ge
Uberdude [1d\]: beat macfadyen last year
Violence [?\]: mmm...
Uberdude [1d\]: who had been champ for ages
dangodan [2d\]: rubberduck also strong
Violence [?\]: : / Is Fan Hui in this tourney, or is he in a different Euro country?
genjuro [4d\]: Alex Selby beat Matthew in the previous round
ImNoSensei [-\]: Fan is in France
Uberdude [1d\]: he's fremxh
dangodan [2d\]: great win for alex
Violence [?\]: Ah...
Violence [?\]: What the...
Violence [?\]: White played P14?
Violence [?\]: mmm... this whole exchange looks like black's advantage...
Shikasta [4k\]: is there an sgf record of that alex v matthew match?
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;B[sb]
;W[qa]C[Violence [?\]: whoa...
Violence [?\]: hmmm....
GoPenguin [-\]: q18
GoPenguin [-\]: ?
Violence [?\]: even though black is crawling on the second line for 4 moves... I like the sequence after P17 for black
dangodan [2d\]: p18 ko for later
bgachamps [?\]: Black has used 1hr - White has used 25m
Keylan [6k\]: I'd go Q18 too
Uberdude [1d\]: remember w gets q16 in sente
Stupidness [8k\]: P17?
Violence [?\]: psuedo sente
dangodan [2d\]: q18 dosnt work
GoPenguin [-\]: oh
Stupidness [8k\]: P17?
Violence [?\]: p17 q16 q18 p18 p19 r15 s16 r14 s14 r13 s13 r12 s12 r11 s11 r10 s10 now white is still weak and needs to make eye... black can take control
Uberdude [1d\]: hehe, as ususal alex playing slowly
Stupidness [8k\]: b can easly get a ko
Stupidness [8k\]: and play H16 or something
Violence [?\]: Another feasible option
Violence [?\]: I think he should tenuki for now....
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;B[ie]
;W[gd]C[Violence [?\]: he... seems to agree
Maria [4k\]: hi
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;B[ob]
;W[pb]C[Stupidness [8k\]: ko
Stupidness [8k\]: duh
Violence [?\]: I guess he goes for ko
Maria [4k\]: not that early, will they ?
dangodan [2d\]: J15 weak move
Stupidness [8k\]: yeah
Violence [?\]: J15 was bad...
Violence [?\]: took away ko threat
Violence [?\]: now black should tenuki
Violence [?\]: to make ko threats
Violence [?\]: imo
Stupidness [8k\]: aint it early for S19?
Violence [?\]: Now, I would agree
Violence [?\]: I think he should tenuki in a way that makes ko threats
Uberdude [1d\]: k4 is huge if he can tenuki top group
Stupidness [8k\]: tenuki?
Violence [?\]: Yeah
letum [3k\]: tenuki= play elswhere
Violence [?\]: will white really play S19?
Stupidness [8k\]: yeah
Violence [?\]: I'd rather die
Stupidness [8k\]: s19 important
Violence [?\]: Haha
Violence [?\]: So black takes two moves
Violence [?\]: elsewhere
Violence [?\]: white makes his two points
letum [3k\]: if B makes 2 moves elsewhere he wins
Violence [?\]: and black takes god knows what
Stupidness [8k\]: i think
Stupidness [8k\]: b can win the ko
Violence [?\]: now?
Stupidness [8k\]: or
Stupidness [8k\]: win
Uberdude [1d\]: k4 s19 q6 b won
Stupidness [8k\]: P17 or something
bgachamps [?\]: FYI ** http://www.britgo.org/news/IMGP0930-Alex-vs-Will-30-38.JPG
hulken [1d\]: b can play r14 in sente
hulken [1d\]: and w s19 and b gets to play elswhere
Stupidness [8k\]: but
Stupidness [8k\]: f16
Stupidness [8k\]: i mean
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;B[hg]C[Stupidness [8k\]: the H17 group
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;W[ql]C[Stupidness [8k\]: worth more than k4
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;B[qn]C[hulken [1d\]: without r14 w have no god local ko thret so he cant play the ko
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;W[qi]C[Violence [?\]: Keh
Violence [?\]: good job, white
Violence [?\]: make another weak group
Violence [?\]: that's going to get ko'd to death
Lebertran [1d\]: :)
letum [3k\]: haha
Stupidness [8k\]: but
hulken [1d\]: no its not
Stupidness [8k\]: oh
Stupidness [8k\]: actually
Stupidness [8k\]: after 
Stupidness [8k\]: b M13
hulken [1d\]: r11 is sente to capture with r14
Stupidness [8k\]: he can win the ko
Violence [?\]: How is this not a weak group?
hulken [1d\]: and now if b r14 it is not so big
letum [3k\]: Stupidness could you write what you want in one sentence? not every word in a differnet line?
Stupidness [8k\]: Bs19 - T19 - Q16 - S19
Stupidness [8k\]: something like that
Violence [?\]: ummm
Violence [?\]: what?
Violence [?\]: s19 t19 q16 p17 s19 o18 
Uberdude [1d\]: so s12 
Stupidness [8k\]: thats why R14 so important
Stupidness [8k\]: no no 
Stupidness [8k\]: i meany
Stupidness [8k\]: meant
Stupidness [8k\]: lets say
Stupidness [8k\]: b has M13
Stupidness [8k\]: and R14
Stupidness [8k\]: S19 - T19 - P17 - Q16 - S19
ImNoSensei [-\]: no rush to start the ko
Stupidness [8k\]: yeah
Stupidness [8k\]: oh there is r15 also
Stupidness [8k\]: nvm i was wrong
elMonk [3d\]: is this the only game being broadcast?
Violence [?\]: I like... S7...
Stupidness [8k\]: s7 small
Violence [?\]: ...
Violence [?\]: right.
Violence [?\]: I'm sure it's very very small.
Stupidness [8k\]: K4?
Stupidness [8k\]: :o
demented [4k\]: are they pros or just dans?
giine: pro can not be dan ?
Batavia [4k\]: yes
CocoaCup [4d\]: british 3d are usually about kgs 2d or something?
Lacrimosa [4k?\]: amateur dans
demented [4k\]: ty ^^
Violence [?\]: Simply amateurs
Durza [19k?\]: theyre actually cats. trained from birth, they've been brought up to crush us humans in Go.
Violence [?\]: which is why we can comment with much more audacity
Violence [?\]: than usual.
CocoaCup [4d\]: yusuf was a cat
CocoaCup [4d\]: now he teaches the koran
Nihilst [-\]: Cocoa: W is kgs 4d
CocoaCup [4d\]: ok
CocoaCup [4d\]: kgs 4d is super strong!!111!!
bgachamps [?\]: Black has 30m Remaining, White has 65m Remaining - overtime is 15moves in 5 m
CocoaCup [4d\]: :)
demented [4k\]: 4k are even better!!
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;B[jp]C[giine: maybe there are only kyu pro player in UK
CocoaCup [4d\]: I prefer black at this point, white is so sealed in
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;W[qf]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: hmm, B should easily sacrifce these stones
giine: so you cocoa you would r13 ?
CocoaCup [4d\]: r8/r11 very weak
CocoaCup [4d\]: I would
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;B[qg]
(;W[qe]C[Uberdude [1d\]: s14 or s13 ?
Uberdude [1d\]: s14 gives w s12 in sente
CocoaCup [4d\]: at this point I would f3
Uberdude [1d\]: i suppose that's big =)
CocoaCup [4d\]: s14 is about 15 points, but it weakens white to play there, so it's not big at the moment for B
demented [4k\]: r15 ....leads to kos rigth?
]
;B[pf]C[elMonk [3d\]: black would rather have S13 I think
Nihilst [-\]: letting the stones die is not so good, black has ko later
demented [4k\]: ...q14 is good?
CocoaCup [4d\]: you are right nihilist
CocoaCup [4d\]: I misjudged
Batavia [4k\]: q14 takes away possible eye space, so yes it's good
CocoaCup [4d\]: white is in a very poor position at the moment
Durza [19k?\]: poor, but salvageable
Violence [?\]: very tough.
Batavia [4k\]: white could go for S19 and get it over with
Violence [?\]: I mean, black has not only more potential territory, but P16 isn't totally alive yet, and R11 is looking bad.
Violence [?\]: Why would white want to S19? It's like a res move...
Violence [?\]: If white's forced to S19, he will lose
CocoaCup [4d\]: I think white needs to do something drastic
Durza [19k?\]: so drop the r14 stones (w) and form up the group
Batavia [4k\]: q4 kind of drastic?
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;W[pe]C[genjuro [5d\]: W can only turn this around by staying calm
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;B[rg]
;W[ra]C[Violence [?\]: gg.
Batavia [4k\]: ha, there is S19
Violence [?\]: time for black to pwn white.
Violence [?\]: like no tomorrow.
demented [4k\]: now focus on r8 r11 
demented [4k\]: ?
Violence [?\]: Yep.
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;B[om]C[Durza [19k?\]: of course
genjuro [5d\]: looks like it's a 100-1 though
Violence [?\]: White hasn't solved a thing
Intake [2d\]: good move
Violence [?\]: ahhhh
Violence [?\]: so now
demented [4k\]: can w like live?
Violence [?\]: s6 s7 is what black wants, eh?
Intake [2d\]: w live after helping black solidify his bottom moyo heh
elMonk [3d\]: w can still go for a time win ^^
Violence [?\]: heh
Violence [?\]: basically
Violence [?\]: no matter what does right now
Violence [?\]: he's way behind
demented [4k\]: how much time they get?
Batavia [4k\]: i feel an C9 comming
CocoaCup [4d\]: what?! s19?
CocoaCup [4d\]: better f16 then...
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;W[ol]
;B[nl]C[Durza [19k?\]: lol.....
Batavia [4k\]: ko would be too devestating for white i think
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;W[rn]
;B[ro]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: only if there is a very big threat
CocoaCup [4d\]: that was f16
elMonk [3d\]: 105 mins + 15/5
Dita [1k\]: pro game?
Violence [?\]: even now
Violence [?\]: this is going to be soooo bad for white
CocoaCup [4d\]: playing s19 is too devestating
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;W[rm]C[Violence [?\]: No, amateur game
Dita [1k\]: ok
Violence [?\]: look at the names
Dita [1k\]: bye
Dita [1k\]: :P
Violence [?\]: it's obvious
Intake [2d\]: ya even some 1k can't tell the difference
Intake [2d\]: i guess
Shikasta [4k\]: check bgachampsinfo
Batavia [4k\]: what? a pro can't be called Will?
CocoaCup [4d\]: that's right batavia :)
Violence [?\]: If a pro was named Will, he'd be famous.
demented [4k\]: can all 5d+ in kgs play like this in taurna and get to this stage?
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;B[qo]
;W[ok]
;B[nk]C[Violence [?\]: And there's only one pro named Alex in the world, his last name isn't Selby.
Violence [?\]: I think so.
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;W[dj]C[Violence [?\]: whoa.
Violence [?\]: Someone say drastic?
Batavia [4k\]: you're talking about breakfast (forgot his last name)
Batavia [4k\]: drastic
elMonk [3d\]: ? D10 makes sense to me
Durza [19k?\]: very
mstarsup5 [-\]: dinerschtein
Durza [19k?\]: makes sense, but it speaks of desperation
Batavia [4k\]:  it speaks of confidence. not sure about confidence in what but it is confidence in something
Intake [2d\]: w planning to pull out his k14 stones?
Violence [?\]: This is a very bold move.
elMonk [3d\]: w needs to be bold
Violence [?\]: I don't think white can afford such an idea, Intake
Intake [2d\]: save the cutting stones 
Intake [2d\]: and b not so strong there
andrem [7k\]: what about Q10 move for black ?
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;B[ff]C[Intake [2d\]: e15
Violence [?\]: Yeah, I think black can definitely make life very hard for white in there
Durza [19k?\]: was just thinking that
Batavia [4k\]: i'd try S9 myself
Intake [2d\]: or maybe g14
Kamisama [3k\]: S9?
mstarsup5 [-\]: what's the purpose of S9?
Batavia [4k\]: ruin eye space and connect with T10 if white doens't respond on that side
elMonk [3d\]: Can anyone tell me the draw for this round?
Wizzos [13k\]: S9 before t10?
Wizzos [13k\]: or the opposite?
mstarsup5 [-\]: just gives W one stone imo
Batavia [4k\]: seems more effective than q10 to me
Kamisama [3k\]: actually
Kamisama [3k\]: killing it doesnt seem that hard
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;W[ge]C[Boot [7k\]: actually both don`t seem to care
Wizzos [13k\]: if s9, w s12 no?
mstarsup5 [-\]: neither q10 nor s9 looks effective to me ^^
mstarsup5 [-\]: but i might be wrong though
Wizzos [13k\]: id try t10 directly
Wizzos [13k\]: but ok
Kamisama [3k\]: with s9 white might be able to create a seki
Wizzos [13k\]: im only a 13k
Kamisama [3k\]: S10 looks more effective
Kamisama [3k\]: for black
Kamisama [3k\]: s10 s11 r10 , q10 or t11 miai
elMonk [3d\]: hard to find a nice black move here
zebula [3k\]: q10 of nivea
zebula [3k\]: ?
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;B[fq]
;W[fp]C[slownet [1d\]: then tenuki
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;B[gp]
;W[gq]C[elMonk [3d\]: hehe will always plays G3...
Batavia [4k\]: bad crosscut
zebula [3k\]: ol
zebula [3k\]: lol
bgachamps [?\]: The rest of the Round 3 draw is in the User Info now
Violence [?\]: Joseki to try and make black overconcentrated
zebula [3k\]: with d4 ...
Violence [?\]: But I don't think.... black will become overconcentrated
Violence [?\]: I think this is a misplay by white
Kamisama [3k\]: hehe, batavia, i doubt you actually read it out before you said bad move?
TimHunt [1d?\]: Cross-cut is a standard, but rare joseki
elMonk [3d\]: strictly speaking yes (a misplay) - but w got another chance to gain some points back the way I see it.
Uberdude [1d\]: how to avoid becoming overconcentrated?
Uberdude [1d\]: e4 f5 d3 ?
Medice [-\]: e2 is common here
elMonk [3d\]: isn't just be2 good enough though 
Uberdude [1d\]: and go with w's plan?
Boot [7k\]: i think black would like to invade the left somewhere
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;B[ep]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: no problem going with you oponents plan if it's a bad plan :)
]
;W[fo]
;B[dq]
;W[eo]
;B[eq]C[Violence [?\]: I don't like this for white either though
]
;W[cq]C[Violence [?\]: I think this is just fine for black
Medice [-\]: e2 would have ended better
CocoaCup [4d\]: hmm, white became very thick
CocoaCup [4d\]: I will agree with medice
bgachamps [?\]: B has 15m remaining .. W has 65m remaining
Kamisama [3k\]: lol
TimHunt [1d?\]: Will's playing slowly by his standards
elMonk [3d\]: b used to being in overtime and it's quite slow overtime so no real time problems I think
]
;B[cp]C[TimHunt [1d?\]: Yes, I think it is 15 stones in 5 mins
]
;W[do]
;B[cr]
;W[bq]
;B[br]
;W[bp]
;B[hq]C[Violence [?\]: Yeah, white got thick, but...
]
;W[gr]C[Violence [?\]: I don't think that D10 is well placed
Medice [-\]: it is very well placed
Uberdude [1d\]: can b h4?
Violence [?\]: How is it well placed?
Violence [?\]: I think Black can H4
]
;B[hr]
;W[go]
;B[hp]C[elMonk [3d\]: K4 ended up bad anyway
Violence [?\]: Yeah... K4 is worse placed than D10
Kamisama [3k\]: this sequence is good for white, no doubt about it
CocoaCup [4d\]: yeah, but corner is bigger for black than normal joseki, white is not really happy
Metho [1d\]: its joseki? :D
]
;W[gj]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: kamisama, compare this with normal attach and extend-joseki and see if it really is good for white?
Violence [?\]: I still like black all over the board...
Kamisama [3k\]: Coco, yes your right, if he played the normal joseki it would be better for white
Gunther [5d\]: soon b will decide to kill w on the right and then we can all have a good laugh
Uberdude [1d\]: b can surely live on left side
TimHunt [1d?\]: Think the balance of territory is about equal - If white R8 etc are allive
Shikasta [4k\]: gunther where to start attacking r/h side
Uberdude [1d\]: lower side is more solid terr than left side though
elMonk [3d\]: I can't see how W likves if b plays first but then again I didn't make it to the challengers
Kamisama [3k\]: i dont think its alive and i think black think's its already dead? am i right?
Metho [1d\]: no :)
Kamisama [3k\]: even if white plays the first move
Gunther [5d\]: your definately not right
]
;B[eg]C[Kamisama [3k\]: well, i cant make it alive if black plays there first, but its big enough to attack now, so i dont understand why black isnt doing that?
genjuro [5d\]: both think W is alive
Uberdude [1d\]: wow, letting w get side
Violence [?\]: This is a weird looking move...
Uberdude [1d\]: i would invade
Violence [?\]: Same.
]
;W[cg]C[Uberdude [1d\]: seems a thank you move
Violence [?\]: I think this is too single minded
Uberdude [1d\]: b connects on dame
]
;B[im]C[Violence [?\]: and it helps white fix
Uberdude [1d\]: w makes 20 points
Violence [?\]: black seems confident
Boot [7k\]: perhaps a win of 1 point is good enough
Violence [?\]: Haha
Violence [?\]: as if they can really do that.
]
;W[pm]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: B has every reason to be confident, steady lead, little room for potential failiure
Violence [?\]: It's true
]
;B[on]
;W[ni]C[Violence [?\]: I'd be unnecessarily complicating things
Violence [?\]: if this were my game
ImNoSensei [-\]: huh ?
Violence [?\]: Wow...
Violence [?\]: O11?
ImNoSensei [-\]: O11 takes some reading
]
;B[oj]C[Violence [?\]: White smoking something?
Uberdude [1d\]: q10 p11 
bgachamps [?\]: B has 8m W has 60m
Uberdude [1d\]: and he seems to live a bit more
]
;W[pj]
;B[oi]C[Violence [?\]: I think black used the time where it counts
]
;W[ij]C[Violence [?\]: He can sit back and relax nowq
Uberdude [1d\]: still don't like e13...
]
;B[jh]
;W[kj]C[StefRo [1d\]: can he?   W side also big....
Batavia [4k\]: i don't know, feels like white has caught up a lot with his left side
Nihilst [-\]: with e13, C15 will work later if he wants to invade
Gunther [5d\]: b e11
Uberdude [1d\]: but it's connecting on dame
Uberdude [1d\]: and giving w free points he doesn't deserve
elMonk [3d\]: left side not whites yet
Uberdude [1d\]: well, c13 helps a _lot_
CocoaCup [4d\]: right side intresting problem
CocoaCup [4d\]: too bad B so short on time
TimHunt [1d?\]: B is not very short on time. Alex is very good at playing in overtime
Soronume [-\]: is this tournament game?
Uberdude [1d\]: *waves to tim*
bgachamps [?\]: Bei Ge won his 3rd game
Gunther [5d\]: or simply c14
elMonk [3d\]: nooooooooo
elMonk [3d\]: bad sam
]
;B[ji]C[Uberdude [1d\]: bei ge beat sam?
]
;W[il]
;B[hm]
;W[kl]
;B[km]
;W[lm]C[FrostDragn [2d\]: what tourney is this?
Violence [?\]: tsk
elMonk [3d\]: yes
bgachamps [?\]: ** read user info for details and links **
Uberdude [1d\]: british champ challengers' league
elMonk [3d\]: see bgachamps info
elMonk [3d\]: ^^
FrostDragn [2d\]: ah ok, thx
Uberdude [1d\]: l7 seems mistake
Uberdude [1d\]: L7 at m7 better?
]
;B[kn]
;W[ml]
;B[pi]
;W[qk]
;B[ln]C[Gunther [5d\]: its not so bad, b just get reduced slightly, but at least he got h7 for his gote efforts
Uberdude [1d\]: but was m7 better?
Gunther [5d\]: not rly
]
;W[dg]C[elMonk [3d\]: C14 so big
Violence [?\]: about same I think
Violence [?\]: I was waiting for black C14
Violence [?\]: white's starting to turn this around
Violence [?\]: if black isn't careful
TimHunt [1d?\]: I still think the balance of territory is close
Uberdude [1d\]: the dangers of playing safe when you think you are ahead
]
;B[ej]C[elMonk [3d\]: still blacks ahead but close now I think
]
;W[ek]
;B[fk]C[Boot [7k\]: black seems to be leading
Uberdude [1d\]: so should m6 be c14?
Violence [?\]: E9 was played with too little thought, I think
]
;W[fj]
;B[ei]C[CocoaCup [4d\]: forget this game, bao yun is playing ranked :)
Violence [?\]: Whoa
Violence [?\]: *turns attention to the other game*
]
;W[fl]C[Gunther [5d\]: b has s10 in sente for yose reduction when this settles
Gunther [5d\]: due to the q8 eye stealing tesuji if w tenukis
TenjoTenge [3d\]: i think s11 is better
TenjoTenge [3d\]: s10 does'nt work
Gunther [5d\]: b just connects underneath
Violence [?\]: Ah
Violence [?\]: I think I follow Gunther
elMonk [3d\]: yeah - b can connect
elMonk [3d\]: D9?
]
;B[dk]
;W[gk]
;B[cj]
;W[di]
;B[dh]
;W[ci]
;B[ch]C[Violence [?\]: I think this reduction is too small for black
]
;W[bi]
;B[bh]
;W[bj]
;B[ck]
;W[bk]C[elMonk [3d\]: nice - D13 looking a little silly now :)
Batavia [4k\]: and C15 is interesting again
Violence [?\]: hmmmm
Violence [?\]: c6 c5 c8 b8 b7 d8 c7...
Violence [?\]: doesn't work..
TimHunt [1d?\]: I think that was good enough for black.
bgachamps [?\]: B is now starting overtime W has 52m
Unplugged [-\]: wow
elMonk [3d\]: must be some way to make use of F17 for nice yose in top left
]
;B[el]
;W[fk]C[Gohz [9k\]: E8 B8
elMonk [3d\]: play b play!
Batavia [4k\]: it'd be very sad if white would win on time after a game like this
bgachamps [?\]: B thought for 2.5 m of this overtime period - 14 to play
]
;B[ce]
;W[de]C[Uberdude [1d\]: 15 in 5 mins?
]
;B[bf]
;W[df]
;B[bd]C[bgachamps [?\]: yes
Gunther [5d\]: b can save himself some thought and play a sente sequence like s10 woot
TimHunt [1d?\]: B is now at least 10 ahead
elMonk [3d\]: E10 was an excellent move
TimHunt [1d?\]: Yes, I agree. Nice way to wrap up the gaem
bgachamps [?\]: B survived - starting new Overtime period .. the recording will catch up later
Violence [?\]: Haha
Violence [?\]: ok
FrostDragn [2d\]: b winning by too much
Batavia [4k\]: agg, you leave us in agony about what he might be thinking and he alrealy moved....
TimHunt [1d?\]: I can't see anything for white to try to catch up
elMonk [3d\]: b way ahead and that's counting nicely for w
Gunther [5d\]: now that i stare at it long enough, s11 looks like it can become ko for life
Gunther [5d\]: after s11 s10 r12 r7 q9 q8 r10 or s11 s10 r12 r10 q8 well w just dies that way
niki [3k\]: b s10 has to be answered at r10?
bgachamps [?\]: we have been using a double sheet system but no timeto synchronise the sheets - game is now at move 170
elMonk [3d\]: double sheet system?
FrostDragn [2d\]: *totally lost*
bgachamps [?\]: more now
]
;W[bc]
;B[ac]
;W[ab]
;B[ad]
;W[cb]
;B[jb]C[Batavia [4k\]: ask white if he would mind thinking for 10 minutes so you can catch up :-)
]
;W[ih]
;B[hh]
;W[fh]
;B[eh]C[Violence [?\]: He would probably mind
]
;W[hf]
;B[if]
;W[ig]C[Violence [?\]: If white gets to think for that long, so does black
]
;B[ii]
;W[gg]
;B[gf]C[elMonk [3d\]: interesting sequence on the right - if I was playing I wouldn't give the L&D of that group a second glance just try to count some yose
]
;W[fi]C[Unplugged [-\]: in extremis, phew
bgachamps [?\]: new overtime just started W has 47m
elMonk [3d\]: wonder what the odds on B+time are
FrostDragn [2d\]: 1:2
bgachamps [?\]: Game over - W resigned at move 194 .. will complete the record now
Violence [?\]: Thought so.
]
;B[he]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: yay for B
elMonk [3d\]: gg
Violence [?\]: there's just no way white can come back from this.
]
;W[jc]
;B[kc]
;W[ib]C[FrostDragn [2d\]: aww violence
]
;B[kb]C[FrostDragn [2d\]: dont b so mean
]
;W[so]
;B[sp]C[Violence [?\]: I'm just being honest
]
;W[sn]
;B[rq]C[FrostDragn [2d\]: i guess....
]
;W[nj]
;B[mm]
;W[mk]C[genjuro [5d\]: mean and honest are not mutually exclusive
]
;B[nm]
;W[li]
;B[lh]C[Violence [?\]: Fine, I'm being brutally honest
]
;W[ll]
;B[fm]
;W[em]
;B[aq]C[Violence [?\]: It's not like white can disagree
]
;W[co]C[Kamisama [3k\]: looks like black is winning by alot
]
;B[ai]
;W[bl]
;B[si]
;W[rj]
;B[bg]
;W[rf]
;B[sf]
;W[ho]
;B[io]C[elMonk [3d\]: well .. J17 D17 combo was a crazy idea
]
;W[ap]
;B[ar]
;W[sj]C[Violence [?\]: agreed.
]
;B[gm]
;W[fe]
;B[ef]
;W[ee]C[Uberdude [1d\]: and well punished
]
;B[en]
;W[dl]
;B[dm]C[Violence [?\]: I think the majority of the game
Violence [?\]: was to punish S19
TeeSushi [1d\]: w should resign
Violence [?\]: White already has
bgachamps [?\]: W Resigns
TeeSushi [1d\]: lol
Batavia [4k\]: hehe
genjuro [4d\]: G13 should have been G12
genjuro [4d\]: nah
genjuro [4d\]: no help
genjuro [5d\]: I missed something ^^
niki [3k\]: this should be in the book for hanamiko
genjuro [5d\]: why is my rank changing?
PallMall [4k\]: lol
aknownplr: Your kibitz is strong
Stupidness [8k\]: whats kibitz?
hakky [-\]: kibitz is the new ranking system
TimHunt [1d?\]: When does roudn 4 start?
Uberdude [1d\]: israeli collective farm
simplet [2d\]: kibootz
bgachamps [?\]: Rd 4 starts at 14:30 BST
bgachamps [?\]: 90 mins from now
TimHunt [1d?\]: Thanks
gopalam [7k\]: ok thx
Stupidness [8k\]: kibitz?
Stupidness [8k\]: it aint israeli collective farm
Stupidness [8k\]: its called kibbutz
Uberdude [1d\]: bgachamps = geoff?
Stupidness [8k\]: i dun understand this move
Stupidness [8k\]: E8///
Stupidness [8k\]: .....
Stupidness [8k\]: is it over? :\\
desperado [3d\]: what is this move...
Stupidness [8k\]: i guess its good yose move?
Stupidness [8k\]: K9
bgachamps [?\]: game is over
Stupidness [8k\]: oh
Stupidness [8k\]: why?
bgachamps [?\]: w resigned
desperado [3d\]: weird place to resign
bgachamps [?\]: because at this point w counted
bgachamps [?\]: Bye all - Next Round at 14:30 BST - 75m from now.  User Info for bgachamps will keep you informed.
feature [1d\]: "BST" lol
])
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;B[rg]
;W[se]
;B[sd]
;W[sf]
;B[pf]
;W[qe]
;B[pe]
;W[rd]))
