(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[6300]
PW[White Alex Selby]PB[Black Bei Ge]WR[4d]BR[6d]DT[2007-07-21]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[BGAadmin [-\]: ok
BGAadmin [-\]: both players are here
macfadyen [-\]: this is a replay of the british championship game today
]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[pj]
;W[nc]
;B[jp]
;W[dj]
;B[lc]
;W[ne]
;B[pf]
;W[kd]
;B[oc]C[macfadyen [-\]: so far, normal
macfadyen [-\]: here white can take thickness
]
(;W[nb]
;B[kc]
;W[jd]
;B[ld]
;W[le]
;B[jc]
;W[id]
;B[ic]C[macfadyen [-\]: here white can connect
]
(;W[hd]
;B[md]
;W[nd]
;B[me]C[BGAadmin [-\]: but bei would hane at H16 anyway
]
(;W[mf]
;B[nf]
(;W[of]C[macfadyen [-\]: this move commits white heavily to the fight at the top
]
;B[ng]
;W[lg]
;B[gc]
;W[og]
(;B[nh]C[macfadyen [-\]: also possible for black to take the outside:
]
;W[gd]C[macfadyen [-\]: I dont understand this push
]
;B[fc]
;W[qc]
;B[pc]C[macfadyen [-\]: looks good for black
]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[oe]
;B[qd]
(;W[qf]C[BGAadmin [-\]: (alex) Yes. White is not good 
macfadyen [-\]: this is really bad shape, how about this one?
]
;B[rf]C[macfadyen [-\]: but having got here, better just make the eye:
]
(;W[oh]C[macfadyen [-\]: this move is effectively an empty triangle because of the atari coming up
]
;B[ni]
;W[oi]
;B[oj]
;W[nj]
;B[li]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[qh]
;B[qj]C[macfadyen [-\]: giving black this free play cant be good for white
]
;W[rh]
;B[oa]
(;W[na]
;B[lb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: can you show black F18?
macfadyen [-\]: now there is no aji at h17
BGAadmin [-\]: after cut
]
;W[qb]
;B[pb]
;W[rd]
;B[re]C[BGAadmin [-\]: try t17 instead of s18?
]
(;W[rb]C[macfadyen [-\]: missed a trick here
]
;B[sc]
;W[sd]
;B[sb]
;W[rc]C[macfadyen [-\]: this is quite dangerous, black might s11
]
(;B[qa]
;W[pi]
;B[mj]
;W[nk]
;B[ml]
;W[rj]C[BGAadmin [-\]: alex: I was thinking establish right to play 2-step ko  then live by s10
]
;B[rk]C[BGAadmin [-\]: but after s18, I could maybe resign :-)
macfadyen [-\]: now white has a clean 2 eyes with t11, so best tenuki, and i think e18 is enormous
]
(;W[qk]
;B[ql]C[macfadyen [-\]: i think if w is fighting the ko he should play threats from the outside
BGAadmin [-\]: alex wants to live leaving ko aji for later
macfadyen [-\]: makes it much harder for black to just take outside thickness
macfadyen [-\]: of course w can live fast using s10 and the corner together
macfadyen [-\]: but just lkiving is not enough
]
;W[sj]
;B[ol]C[macfadyen [-\]: i expected q9 here
]
(;W[fd]
;B[db]
;W[hp]
;B[cn]
;W[co]
;B[dn]
;W[eq]C[macfadyen [-\]: now I think we all know w is behind here
]
;B[bo]
;W[bp]
;B[do]
;W[cp]
;B[ck]
;W[cj]
;B[dk]
(;W[qq]C[macfadyen [-\]: I like black's blunt way of living fast
macfadyen [-\]: but r3 seems a bit simple:
]
;B[pq]
;W[qp]
;B[qn]C[macfadyen [-\]: this was good
]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[qr]
;B[po]C[macfadyen [-\]: here I prefer O3
]
;W[nr]C[macfadyen [-\]: White cunningly lives in sente
]
;B[os]
;W[cb]
;B[ej]
;W[ek]
;B[bj]
;W[bi]
;B[bk]
(;W[ei]
;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[ci]C[macfadyen [-\]: now the game is really over
]
;W[di]
;B[ch]
;W[gj]
;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[cf]
;W[ce]
;B[df]
;W[ff]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]
;B[iq]
;W[sk]
;B[rl]
;W[ko]C[BGAadmin [-\]: bei suggest e18 for white earlier
macfadyen [-\]: nice idea
]
;B[jo]
;W[lk]
;B[mk]
;W[km]
;B[nq]C[macfadyen [-\]: here have to offer the corner
]
(;W[sr]
;B[lo]
;W[ki]
;B[kj]
;W[ji]
;B[lh]
;W[kh]
;B[jl]
;W[jm]
(;B[im]
;W[il]
;B[hl]
;W[ik]C[macfadyen [-\]: or here?
]
(;B[in]
;W[kk]
;B[lj]
(;W[jj]C[macfadyen [-\]: small loss, better k9 to stop m7
]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[mn]
;W[kl]
;B[kn]
;W[da]
;B[eb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Going bacl, do you think c18 is good, or do you think white should continue with c10,d10 stones?
macfadyen [-\]: this was the last chance for anything interesting to happen
]
(;W[hr]
;B[hq]
;W[gr]
;B[gq]
;W[fr]
;B[ir]
;W[is]
;B[js]
;W[hs]
;B[jr]
;W[be]
;B[bf]
;W[af]
;B[ag]
;W[ae]
;B[bh]
;W[bn]
;B[bm]
;W[ao]
;B[gm]
;W[jn]
;B[kp]
;W[fp]
;B[gp]
;W[eg]
;B[el]
;W[fo]
;B[fl]
;W[gk]
;B[go]
;W[fn]
;B[sl]
;W[sh]
;B[ri]
;W[si]
;B[qi]
;W[pg]
;B[mg]
;W[lf]
;B[se]
;W[am]
;B[bl]
;W[ob]
;B[ra]
;W[dg]
;B[cg]
;W[em]
;B[dm]
;W[gn]
;B[hn]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[la]
;B[ka]
;W[ma]
;B[jb]
;W[ea]
;B[fa]
;W[ca]
;B[dh]
;W[eh]
;B[ee]
;W[ed]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]
;B[ef]
;W[fi]
;B[fm]
;W[so]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[qo]
;W[en]
;B[fq]
;W[ep]
;B[hk]
;W[hj]
;B[gl]
;W[ps]
;B[al]
;W[an]
;B[sg]
;W[pa]
;B[fb]
;W[oa]
;B[ll]
;W[jk]
;B[de]
;W[ec]
;B[mb]
;W[mc]
;B[od]
;W[eo]
;B[]
;W[])
(;W[fa]
(;B[ea]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[ha]
;W[ib]
;B[jb]
;W[ed]
;B[ia]
;W[ec]C[macfadyen [-\]: Black cant cut
])
(;B[fb]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[ca]
;B[hc]C[macfadyen [-\]: this is quite ok for black, but he has to be calm
])
(;B[gb]C[macfadyen [-\]: this is no good
]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[ia]
;B[jb]
;W[ka]
;B[la]
;W[ja]C[macfadyen [-\]: seki
macfadyen [-\]: ok there is a ko:
]
;B[ed]
;W[ee]
(;B[fb]
;W[ca]
;B[de]
;W[cd]
;B[be])
(;B[de]
;W[cd]
;B[be]
;W[ca]
;B[ec]
;W[bd]
;B[bf]
;W[ab]C[macfadyen [-\]: black has resources
macfadyen [-\]: but i dont think there was anythin else to try for White
macfadyen [-\]: so, back to the beginning with 3 games to go
macfadyen [-\]: plenty of entertainment still to be had for the spectators
BGAadmin [-\]: thank you for commentating
BGAadmin [-\]: (from players et al)
macfadyen [-\]: ok, this game should get saved in my area on kgs, but Ill keep a copy at home in case its needed, my email matthew@jklmn.demon.co.uk
]))))
(;W[jk]
;B[ln]
;W[kn]
;B[kp]C[macfadyen [-\]: a couple of points
]))
(;B[jj]
;W[in]
;B[kg]
;W[jg]
;B[ii]
;W[kf]
;B[ij]
;W[hm]
;B[ig]))
(;B[kg]
;W[jg]
;B[jj]
;W[ln]
;B[lp]
;W[hm]
;B[ii]
;W[kf]
;B[hl]
;W[gm]
;B[hh]C[macfadyen [-\]: how about going for the centre first?
]))
(;W[mq]
;B[ps]
;W[np]
;B[oq]
;W[kq]C[macfadyen [-\]: there may be a way to achieve something here, and if Black answers outside then the corner can live after reducing the side
]))
(;W[ch]
;B[ei]C[macfadyen [-\]: now have to avoid panic. There is a nice trap.
macfadyen [-\]: this looks like sente
]
;W[el]
;B[dh]
;W[ci]
;B[cf]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[be]C[macfadyen [-\]: but it doesn't work
macfadyen [-\]: I think the game was too easy for black
]))
(;W[om]
;B[nl]
;W[pm]
;B[pl]
;W[op]
;B[oq]
;W[nq]
;B[pq]
;W[ko]C[macfadyen [-\]: how about trying to fight the lower side, and conceivably geta  splitting attack
Uberdude [3d\]: is q7 really sente?
Uberdude [3d\]: what if b o3
Uberdude [3d\]: w saving 2 stones seems small
macfadyen [-\]: oops, no not quite.
macfadyen [-\]: have to q9 first
macfadyen [-\]: but this sort of idea invites black to make an extra weak group
macfadyen [-\]: probably black can just c17 and win, but is takesa a lot of nerve to abandon so big an area
]))
(;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[ec]
;B[fd]
;W[fe]
;B[ee]
;W[ed]
(;B[hc]C[macfadyen [-\]: isnt e18 a better way to seal this off?
]
;W[ff]C[macfadyen [-\]: h17 is forced, so w gets really thick
BGAadmin [-\]: alex asks if H17 is really necessary
macfadyen [-\]: yes
])
(;B[ff]
;W[ge]
;B[de]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[fa]
;B[gb]
;W[ga]
;B[ia]
;W[jb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: alex says k18 instead of j19
macfadyen [-\]: ?
BGAadmin [-\]: he says it sok
BGAadmin [-\]: he's worked it out
])))
(;W[eb]
;B[fb]
;W[fq]C[Uberdude [3d\]: isn't living redundant if you win the ko?
BGAadmin [-\]: but hard to win 2-step ko
macfadyen [-\]: the ko only exists if black tries to kill
macfadyen [-\]: now t13 gets s19
BGAadmin [-\]: wasn't there a ko possibility even if black doesn't try to kill
BGAadmin [-\]: ?
macfadyen [-\]: yes, but only 2 step ko, and that would have been good
]))
(;B[ri]
;W[sg]
;B[qa]
;W[sa]
;B[sb]
;W[sc]
;B[pa]
;W[ob]
;B[ra]
;W[sf]
;B[sb]
;W[mj]C[macfadyen [-\]: seems ok for white??
]))
(;W[sc]
;B[rb]
;W[ra]
;B[sb]
;W[pa]C[BGAadmin [-\]: (alex) here I was aiming for step ko
]
;B[ob]
(;W[sg]C[BGAadmin [-\]: (alex) but misplayed? 
])
(;W[rc]
;B[qa]
;W[sa]
;B[rb]
;W[pa]
;B[se]
;W[mj]C[macfadyen [-\]: at least some sort of ko
BGAadmin [-\]: yes. Then w can live and it is black's problem
macfadyen [-\]: yes, s18 no good
]
;B[lh]
;W[sg]
;B[qa]
;W[pl]
;B[ql]
;W[pa]
;B[ee]
;W[od]
;B[qa]
;W[sb]
;B[sd]
;W[pa]
;B[de]C[BGAadmin [-\]: how about s10 instead of n10 in this line?
]
;W[qm]
;B[qa]
;W[rl]
;B[rb]
;W[nl]
;B[cd]C[macfadyen [-\]: this might be ok for both
])))
(;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
(;B[ib]
;W[na]
;B[lb]
;W[fb]C[macfadyen [-\]: here white absolutely must play h17, g18 while the answer comes at j18
macfadyen [-\]: this might even work directly
])
(;B[fb]
;W[ib]
;B[ga]
;W[lb]
;B[kb]
;W[mc]
;B[la]
;W[ma]
;B[mb]
;W[mj]
;B[lh]
;W[lb]
;B[ia]
;W[ka]
;B[jb]
;W[pl]C[macfadyen [-\]: alive in sente
BGAadmin [-\]: if black doesnt fight the ko?
])))
(;W[qg]
;B[ph]
;W[pg]
;B[rg]
;W[qh]
;B[pi]
;W[lb]
;B[kb]
;W[la]C[BGAadmin [-\]: alex agrees
macfadyen [-\]: there is still a cut at p12
]))
(;W[qh]
;B[qf]
;W[oh]
;B[ni]
;W[rj]C[BGAadmin [-\]: bei say white no eye
macfadyen [-\]: here r18 still looks dangerous, and white is hard to shut in
macfadyen [-\]: no eye doesnt matter if you escape
]
;B[rk]C[BGAadmin [-\]: bei suggests s9
BGAadmin [-\]: yes
]
;W[qj]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]
;B[pi]
;W[qg]
;B[nk]
;W[qb]
;B[pb]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[qa]
;B[pa]
;W[rb]
;B[sd]
;W[sc]
;B[se]
;W[pl]
;B[qm]
;W[sa]C[macfadyen [-\]: the corner comes later, but hard to kill white i think
]))
(;B[mg]
;W[lf]
;B[oh]
;W[oe]
;B[pg]
;W[pe]
;B[qe]
;W[qd]
;B[qf]
;W[qc]
;B[ni]C[macfadyen [-\]: this kind of idea
macfadyen [-\]: but the game is better for black if that is really the result
]))
(;W[lf]
;B[oe]
;W[ng]
;B[of]
;W[hc]
;B[ob]
;W[km]C[macfadyen [-\]: something like this
Uberdude [3d\]: is o18 not a mistake....
Uberdude [3d\]: and the source of white's troubles
macfadyen [-\]: o18 needs to know where it is going
]))
(;W[of]
;B[lf]
;W[pg]
;B[qf]
;W[ng]
;B[oh]
;W[og]
;B[lh]
;W[qg]
;B[qc]
;W[nj]C[macfadyen [-\]: I dont like this move, try this one:
macfadyen [-\]: much easier for white
BGAadmin [-\]: (alex) this occurred to me, but I didn't like it
BGAadmin [-\]: in fact I didn't like anything...
macfadyen [-\]: in the game white cant live with good shape, so maybe should look to sacrifice
]))
(;W[me]
(;B[hd]
;W[fc]C[BGAadmin [-\]: bei says P14
BGAadmin [-\]: instead of N15
macfadyen [-\]: black has dubious eyeshape, i prefer to be white here
])
(;B[gc]
;W[hd]
;B[fc]
(;W[ee])
(;W[fe]C[BGAadmin [-\]: bei prefers black here
BGAadmin [-\]: slightly
macfadyen [-\]: ok, not clearly bad for either, but w can invade at r8, r12, r15 or r17 so the rifght side is a long way from territory
]))))
(;W[kc]
;B[nb]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[lb]C[macfadyen [-\]: this is traditional, the corner is big but whites stones fit
]))
