(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[10800]OT[15/600 Canadian]
GN[British title match, game 4]PW[Matthew Macfadyen]PB[Vanessa Wong]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2011-01-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]LB[pp:1]
(;B[]
;W[])
(;B[pp]
;W[qd]
;B[dq]
(;W[dc]C[liyue [-\]: Good morning ^^
toko [1k\]: good morning 
liyue [-\]: Nice to see everybody here again...
underplay [5d\]: Matthew playing 3-4 points is very normal for him!
liyue [-\]: Usually it is not common for w to start with an open 3.4
]
;B[de]
(;W[dn]LB[cc:B][fd:A]C[liyue [-\]: so w decided to invade directly
liyue [-\]: now what choice does w have..respond the corner or attack the upper left cornerwhere w igored
liyue [-\]: ignored
liyue [-\]: both A and B are possible
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: does anybody know why there is no TV broadcast on EuroGoTV of this game?
liyue [-\]: Hi Harry, here is only for commenting :-) 
liyue [-\]: please contact BGAadmin if you have any problem :-)
]
(;B[fd]
;W[ce]C[liyue [-\]: between the options of f16 and c17...f16 is more focused on the influence,thickess towards the center
]
;B[cf]C[liyue [-\]: but against Matthew, such a fighter B'd prefer the thickness 
]
(;W[be]
(;B[df]
;W[dd]C[liyue [-\]: It is necessary for b to defend now
]
(;B[dk]LB[ee:A]C[liyue [-\]: oh i like d9, pincering w d6 stone while strengthening the upper left side
liyue [-\]: however, the aji of A remains
]
(;W[dp]C[liyue [-\]: he agreed with my suggestion :-)
]
(;B[eq]
;W[cq]
(;B[cr]
;W[br]
;B[bq]
;W[cp]
;B[bs]
;W[fp]
;B[ar]
;W[gn]C[liyue [-\]: now the fight has more or less settled in the left side
]
(;B[od]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV4
]
(;W[kd]C[liyue [-\]: l16 is a similar idea like d6
]
;B[pf]
(;W[oe]C[liyue [-\]: oh fight..
]
;B[pe]
;W[pd]
;B[oc]
(;W[of]
(;B[pg]
(;W[pb]
(;B[pc]
;W[qc]
;B[ob]
;W[qb]
;B[md]
;W[og]
;B[ph]LB[re:A]C[liyue [-\]: personally i find the cut at p15 unnecessary
liyue [-\]: as long as b lives, w doesn't profit from the fight
liyue [-\]: and with the sente at A, b already has many points in the right side
]
(;W[re]C[liyue [-\]: here..really?
]
;B[mf]C[liyue [-\]: now n14 looks really comfortable for b
]
;W[oh]
;B[pi]
(;W[mh]
(;B[kg]C[liyue [-\]: the fight with p15 already put w in a difficult position
]
(;W[ok]C[liyue [-\]: interesting..
]
(;B[oi]C[liyue [-\]: also...here o10 looks more like a tesuji then p11
]
;W[ni]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[nk]LB[le:A]C[liyue [-\]: p9 look seems to be an overplay
liyue [-\]: when w got strong in the upper side, b w'd have some worries with the peep at A
]
(;W[mc]C[liyue [-\]: good point to make more space on the upper side, but the bad side of this move is, that it killed the aji of m15
]
;B[ne]
;W[ld]
(;B[mk]LB[lg:A]C[liyue [-\]: b decided to forget about the upper side for the moment
liyue [-\]: and develop the moyo in the right side
liyue [-\]: but there is some annoying cut on the upper side
]
(;W[kh]
(;B[jf]LB[id:A][jh:B]C[liyue [-\]: k14 looks like a clever move, A,B are miai for b
]
(;W[jh]
(;B[lg]C[liyue [-\]: why here? it is not necessary..
]
;W[lh]
;B[hc]
(;W[na])
(;W[nb]
;B[oa]
(;W[lb]
;B[jb]
;W[id]C[liyue [-\]: w does not want to simply respond
]
(;B[hf]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]
(;W[ic]
(;B[hg])
(;B[ig]
;W[hb]
(;B[ii]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
liyue [-\]: j11 seems to be the wrong directly
]
(;W[ij]C[liyue [-\]: cool move :-)
]
;B[jj]
;W[kj]
;B[jk]
;W[kk]C[Pinguschaf [?\]: game looks very good for black, no ?
liyue [-\]: i'd say so, yes..
liyue [-\]: counting territory now it is about even, but b has much more influence
liyue [-\]: and possible points
]
;B[hj]LB[jb:C][oe:A][lg:D][ii:E][ok:B]C[liyue [-\]: starting with the fight at A
liyue [-\]: w got itself in bit of trouble
liyue [-\]: then for b, C,D and E are a bit obssessed of the upper side
liyue [-\]: while the lower side is quite empty
]
;W[oj]LB[jb:A]C[liyue [-\]: soon after, another overplay at B gave b a lot of influence in the right side 
]
;B[ol]
;W[pk]C[liyue [-\]: the cut ...the first impression is an overplay :-) but of course complicated..
liyue [-\]: lets have some lunch now, and see how it continues later :-)
mFz [2k\]: .
]
(;B[kl]C[liyue [-\]: welcome back to the game :-)
]
(;W[qj]
;B[ri]
(;W[rj]
;B[li]
;W[ki]
;B[pl]
;W[ql]
;B[qm]
;W[rm]
;B[lk]
(;W[qi]
;B[rh]
(;W[qh]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]C[liyue [-\]: no chance for b..
]
;B[rl]
;W[qk]
;B[rn]
;W[qf]
;B[ip]
;W[ih]C[liyue [-\]: j11 is a tricky move...if b responds without thinking..
]
(;B[ep]
;W[eo]
;B[em]
;W[fq]
(;B[fr]
;W[dm]
;B[el]C[liyue [-\]: but maybe b is aimming to kill the entire group..
]
;W[hp]
;B[io]
;W[gr]C[liyue [-\]: hmm i think b missed a good chance for responding at f2
]
;B[ir]
(;W[jl]
;B[ik]C[liyue [-\]: b is a bit desparate..
]
(;W[hh]
;B[fo]
;W[er]
;B[dr]
;W[en]
;B[es]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
;W[ll]
;B[km]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[nl]
;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[on]
;W[lm]
;B[cl]LB[ff:A][di:B]C[liyue [-\]: now w is leading in territory and stronger 
]
;W[bn]LB[lp:A]C[liyue [-\]: b has many bad ajis in the upper / left side
liyue [-\]: also the lower side is empty
]
;B[kn]
;W[ln]
;B[lo]
;W[mo]
;B[lp]
;W[ko]
(;B[jo])
(;B[kp]
(;W[le]
;B[nn]
;W[lj]
;B[bp]
;W[bo]
;B[cm]
;W[cn]
;B[hq]
;W[go]
;B[gq]
;W[gp]
;B[gm]
(;W[dl]
;B[ck]C[liyue [-\]: i doubt if d8 is necessary
]
;W[ek]
;B[fl]
(;W[fk])
(;W[hm]
;B[fk]
;W[jn]C[liyue [-\]: hmm
]
(;B[jo]
;W[jm]
;B[gh]
(;W[jg]
;B[gg]
(;W[ko]LB[kl:A]
;B[kf]LB[kl:A]C[liyue [-\]: I'd say b L8 was the losing move..
liyue [-\]: although b still had chance after losing p11 group
liyue [-\]: b seemed to lost its spirit and went desparate..
]
;W[me]
;B[nf]
;W[nd]
;B[gc]
;W[gb]
;B[fb]
(;W[eb]
;B[ec]
;W[fa]
;B[ib])
(;W[db]
;B[ib]
;W[fc]
;B[ha]
;W[eb]
;B[ec]
;W[fa]
;B[jd]
;W[fc]
;B[mp]
;W[mn]
;B[if]
;W[hg]
;B[fb]
;W[jc]C[liyue [-\]: well...no matterh what happened...looks like w should have connected at j18 at the first place..
]
;B[]
;W[hl]
;B[fj]
;W[fc]
;B[hn]
;W[fn]
;B[fb]
;W[]
;B[fm]
;W[gl]
;B[]
;W[gk]
;B[]
;W[gi]
;B[hi]
;W[fc]
;B[do]
;W[co]
;B[fb]
;W[gf]
;B[ff]
;W[fc]
(;B[ge])
(;AB[da])
(;AE[hl]
;B[bf]
;W[af]
;B[ag]
;W[ae]
;B[im]
;W[fg]
;B[]
;W[ed]
;B[op]
;W[ee]
;B[]
;W[no]
;B[pn]
;W[oo]
;B[]
;W[qe]
;B[rf]
;W[fe]
;B[]
;W[bg]
;B[ah]
;W[ch]
;AB[ef]
;B[ge]
;W[]
;B[bi]
;W[fh]
;B[gf]
;W[fi]
;B[gj]
(;W[dh])
(;W[bh]
;B[ai]
(;W[cj])
(;W[ci]
;B[cj]
;W[]
;B[bk]
;W[ei]
;B[bm]
;W[]
;B[mg]
;W[lf]
;B[]
;W[nh]
;B[sk]
;W[ng]
;B[]
;W[sj]
;B[]
;W[np]
;B[nq]
;W[rk]
;B[sm]
;W[sl]
;B[cd]
;W[bd]
;B[sk]
;W[oq]
;B[pq]
;W[sl]
;B[pa]
;W[or]
;B[sk]
;W[]
;B[cc]
;W[bc]
;B[nr]
;W[]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[]
;W[mq]
;B[mr]
;W[sl]
;B[kc]
;W[kb]
;B[sk]
;W[aj]
;B[bj]
;W[sl]
;B[he]
;W[lc]
;B[sk]
;W[ho]
;B[in]
;W[sl]
;B[ml]
;W[mm]
;B[sk]
;W[hr]
;B[iq]
;W[sl]
;B[kn]
;W[rm]
;B[sn]
(;W[il])
(;AB[il]
;AB[al]
;W[am]
;B[]
;W[di]
;B[]
;W[ie]
;B[je]
;W[ke]
;B[dh]
;W[]
;B[eg]
;W[]
;B[cg]
;W[ji]
;B[ej]C[liyue [-\]: it is quite a pity for b though, w was in a very difficult position at the beginning
liyue [-\]: thanks for both players...and hope you all enjoyed the commentary :-)
]))))))
(;W[bf]
;B[bg]
;W[kf]C[liyue [-\]: b14 then cut?
liyue [-\]: w is leading by a lot now...
]))
(;W[bf]C[liyue [-\]: b14 is huge..
]
;B[bg]
;W[bh]))
(;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[fn]
;W[in]C[liyue [-\]: oh, not working :-(
]
;B[jo]
;W[jm]C[liyue [-\]: w is alive..
])))
(;W[fn]LB[cj:B][bk:A]C[liyue [-\]: later w might benefit from the aji in the left side
]))
(;W[le]
;B[nf]
;W[jg]
;B[kf]
;W[hg]C[liyue [-\]: b really has some problem on the upper side..
]))
(;B[kp]C[liyue [-\]: why doesn't be atari from the other side..
]))
(;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[nl]
;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[on]
;W[ll]
;B[km]
;W[lm]
;B[er]
;W[ck]C[liyue [-\]: doesn't seem to be possible to kill this groups
]))
(;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[jl]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w can make some testing move now..
]
;B[km]
;W[ik]C[liyue [-\]: defending the lower left group by killing the two stones in center
]))
(;B[fo]C[liyue [-\]: if b cuts..
]
(;W[fr]
;B[en]
;W[do]
;B[er]C[liyue [-\]: w is dead
])
(;W[fn]
;B[go]
;W[ho]
;B[gp]
;W[hp]
;B[gq]
;W[hq]
;B[fr]
;W[en]
;B[hn]C[liyue [-\]: still troublesome for w, impossible to take care of both right and left side
])))
(;B[hh]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[jl]
;B[km]
;W[ik]))
(;W[qh]
;B[qg]
;W[rg]
;B[rf]
;W[sg]
;B[sf]
;W[qe]))
(;W[nh]
;B[rl]
;W[qk]
;B[rn]
;W[rh]
;B[qi]
;W[si]
;B[rf]
;W[sf]
;B[sg]
;W[rg]
;B[se]
;W[qf]
;B[qe]C[liyue [-\]: ko..
])
(;W[qi]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]
;B[mg]
;W[qh]
;B[rl]C[liyue [-\]: if w start first, w has one more liberty
]))
(;W[qi]
;B[qh]
;W[rj]
;B[rh]
;W[qm]
;B[nh]
;W[ng]
;B[lj]C[liyue [-\]: w has one more liberty like this
]
;W[nh]))
(;W[lk]
;B[ll]
;W[li]C[liyue [-\]: if w makes life in the center...
]
;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[rm]
(;W[rk]
;B[ri]C[liyue [-\]: w looks dead..
])
(;W[rj]
;B[ri]
;W[rh]
;B[si]C[liyue [-\]: still..
])))
(;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[ql]C[liyue [-\]: i wonder if b starts from the right side first
]
;W[rl]
;B[rm]
;W[rk]
;B[ri]C[liyue [-\]: i don't see any way for w ..
]))
(;W[lj]LB[bf:A][bk:B]C[liyue [-\]: the left side is already small
liyue [-\]: there are quite a bit of ajis and gaps
]))
(;B[lj]
;W[jj]LB[jl:A]C[liyue [-\]: on the other hand, if b attacks from the other side, b won't lose much in the left side
]
;B[jl]))
(;B[lj]
;W[if]C[liyue [-\]: hmm there is a cut..
]
;B[ig]
;W[jg]
;B[ie]
;W[le]))
(;W[ib]C[liyue [-\]: tesuji ..
]
;B[ic]
;W[jc]
;B[hb]
;W[kb]
;B[lj]))
(;B[hf]
;W[kb]C[liyue [-\]: but w needs to make life sooner or later
]))
(;W[lb]C[liyue [-\]: the key point..
]
;B[lj]C[liyue [-\]: m10 is also a good point, keep chasing the j13 group
]
;W[jj]
;B[pn]C[liyue [-\]: then q6? (it looks too tempting to me)
])))
(;B[id]
;W[ic]
;B[hc]
(;W[ib])
(;W[jd]
;B[ie]
;W[ib]
;B[hb]
;W[nb]C[liyue [-\]: w can live in locally
]))
(;B[ol])
(;B[pn]C[liyue [-\]: maybe forget about the upper side for the moment, the right side is huge
]
;W[le]
;B[mg]
;W[me]
;B[nd]C[liyue [-\]: w can't cut
]))
(;W[jh]C[liyue [-\]: looks like the only move
]))
(;B[lg]C[liyue [-\]: and if b wants to defend the ajis b should connect now
]
;W[jh]LB[jf:A]C[liyue [-\]: b will by no mean plays A if w etends
liyue [-\]: extends
]
;B[jg]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[hh]
;B[jc]C[liyue [-\]: severe attack
]))
(;W[lj]
;B[mg]
;W[hc]
;B[ol]C[liyue [-\]: reasonable moves for both side
])
(;W[lg]
;B[lf]
;W[kf]
;B[jg]
;W[jf]
;B[li]C[liyue [-\]: directly cut wouldn't work ..
]))
(;B[jc]LB[lf:A]C[liyue [-\]: K17 looks like a good point...but b has a weakness at A , it is not working at the moment
]
;W[jd]
;B[ic]
;W[lf]))
(;W[hd]C[liyue [-\]: maybe w will settle down the upper side now?
]))
(;B[qk]C[liyue [-\]: probably just respond
])
(;B[nj]C[liyue [-\]: hmm more severe
liyue [-\]: it wouldn't have given w a chance to strengthen the center by giving up p9
]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]
;W[ni]C[liyue [-\]: the cut looks tempting
]
(;B[mj])
(;B[nk]
;W[ol]
;B[li])))
(;W[hd]C[liyue [-\]: h16 is a good point for w to get the base on top
liyue [-\]: now w got a chance to settle down one side, should be happy
]))
(;B[id]C[liyue [-\]: why not attack w from the left side..
]
;W[kf]
;B[lg]C[liyue [-\]: w can't connect anyway
]))
(;W[mh]
;B[id]C[liyue [-\]: n12 is a good point for escaping p12 group
liyue [-\]: but with j16 or j17, w l16 stone is in a difficult position
]))
(;W[]
;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[rb]C[liyue [-\]: w is worried about this...
])
(;W[le]C[liyue [-\]: but shouldn't w seal b in first..
liyue [-\]: b does not have time now anyway..
]))
(;B[ob]
;W[pc]
;B[md]C[liyue [-\]: seems to be the only move for b
]
;W[og]
;B[ph]
;W[le]
;B[kc]
;W[jc]
;B[kb]C[liyue [-\]: it is already alive in local
]))
(;W[pb]C[liyue [-\]: w will still have to defend now
]))
(;B[re]
;W[rd]
;B[rf]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[pc]C[liyue [-\]: it is impossible to threaten the corner for the moment
]))
(;W[pb]C[liyue [-\]: defend the corner?
liyue [-\]: the ladder is not good for b anyway
]
;B[md]
;W[of]C[liyue [-\]: complicated..
])
(;W[ne]
;B[qb]))
(;W[oc]
;B[nc]
;W[pc]
;B[nd]
;W[hd]C[liyue [-\]: more practical
liyue [-\]: as i was saying earlier, i think this is the reasonable way for w
liyue [-\]: after getting the corner, w has a good shape for the l16 group as well
]))
(;W[oc]
;B[nc]
;W[pc]
;B[nd]
;W[pe]C[liyue [-\]: did not want b get form a moyo on the left side
liyue [-\]: but personally, i'd get the corner and some territory like this
liyue [-\]: for b now however, it doesn't have a good point in the upper side
]
(;B[jd]LB[fb:A][hc:B]C[liyue [-\]: this will look too small
liyue [-\]: w can still reduce or invade it
])
(;B[ng]LB[hc:B][hd:A]C[liyue [-\]: and o13 would be too empty
liyue [-\]: w can easily invade in around A,B
])))
(;B[od]C[liyue [-\]: the obvious big point
]))
(;B[cr]
;W[bp]
;B[br]
;W[ep]
;B[fq]C[liyue [-\]: this will be the normal sequences
]))
(;B[cq]C[liyue [-\]: b can also take the 3.3
]
;W[fp]
;B[eq]
;W[gn]))
(;W[dp]C[liyue [-\]: d4 seems to me to be the best point to settle d6 down in this situation
]
(;B[cp]
;W[ep]
;B[co]
;W[fm])
(;B[ep]
;W[cq]
;B[eq]
;W[co])))
(;B[ff])
(;B[od]
;W[ee]
;B[ed]
;W[fe]
;B[ge]
;W[eg]C[liyue [-\]: otherwise the cut is quite severe
liyue [-\]: b has two sides to worry about
]))
(;B[dd]
;W[cc]C[liyue [-\]: I guess b will make this exchange to make the corner smaller
]
;B[dg]C[liyue [-\]: then defend...
]))
(;W[cd]C[liyue [-\]: this is the normal joseki..
]
;B[dg]))
(;B[co]LB[ce:A][dh:B]C[liyue [-\]: first of all, if b responds
liyue [-\]: w can then turn to the upper left side
liyue [-\]: whatever choice w choice now, the exchange at d6 will always be a help for w
liyue [-\]: to keep b down to the 3rd line
])
(;B[fd]C[liyue [-\]: therefore, i'd say the counterattack will be the only way
])
(;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[gc]C[liyue [-\]: c17 is also possible..
]
;B[bb]C[liyue [-\]: more in favor of territory
]
;W[cq]))
(;W[ce]C[liyue [-\]: if w just responds normally..
]
;B[cf]
;W[cd]
;B[dg]
;W[ed]
;B[ck]C[liyue [-\]: b will get a very nice shape in the lower, left side
liyue [-\]: and w is a bit squeezed in the corner
]))
(;W[cd]C[liyue [-\]: more often seen
])))
