(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[6300]
PW[Matthew Macfadyen 6d]PB[Des Cann 5d]WR[6d]BR[5d]DT[2007-06-16]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/ BGA Challengers League Rd 4]
;B[qd]
;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[eq]
;B[oc]
;W[cp]
;B[de]
;W[pn]
;B[qo]
;W[po]
;B[pp]
;W[qn]
;B[ro]
;W[mo]
;B[cc]C[rayen [1d\]: is this british open or ?
]
;W[ch]
;B[dd]
;W[ck]
;B[ec]
;W[nq]
;B[rn]
;W[ql]C[TimHunt [1d?\]: This is the Challenger's league. 8-player all-play-all. Top two players play off for the British Championship
TimHunt [1d?\]: See bgachamps info
rayen [1d\]:  see
Uberdude [1d\]: des cann has challenged macfadyen unsiccessfully a few times
rayen [1d\]: so winner challenges Be Gei ?
Uberdude [1d\]: not necessarily
rayen [1d\]: ok
Uberdude [1d\]: only if be gei is in top 2
Uberdude [1d\]: previous winner gets automatic entry into this league
rayen [1d\]: ah .. what about the others ?
Uberdude [1d\]: but not into final
]
;B[fp]
;W[fq]C[Lacrimosa [4k?\]: it's bei ge though, right
]
;B[hp]C[Uberdude [1d\]: they got into this through earlier candidates tournament
]
;W[fo]C[rayen [1d\]: ok .. thx for clearing up Uberdude :)
Uberdude [1d\]: n5 looks poorly placed
Uberdude [1d\]: o5 better
rayen [1d\]: actually q5 n5 o3  shape is seen alot 
Uberdude [1d\]: oh
rayen [1d\]: I think its lighter than o5 
]
;B[go]
;W[eo]
;B[gm]C[rayen [1d\]: Matthew must be bored .. probably want to attacj :P
Lacrimosa [4k?\]: always
rayen [1d\]: ^^
]
;W[qf]
;B[oe]C[Uberdude [1d\]: quite fast moves
Skadi [1k\]: lol
]
;W[je]C[Xyrion1 [?\]: omg
bgachamps [?\]: W used 8m B used 12m
minismurf [-\]: P15 looks a little slack?
rayen [1d\]: probably
rayen [1d\]: I wouldnt be suprise if a pro commented that a move at top side would be better
ndkrempel [4d\]: that would make P15 an ideal point for white
rayen [1d\]: true
minismurf [-\]: i'd consider to play P14 as black instead, then black has somewhat of a followup
minismurf [-\]: hard for white to make right side into territory either way
]
;B[pg]
;W[qg]
;B[ph]
;W[qh]
;B[pi]C[rayen [1d\]: k13  next ?
Skadi [1k\]: j13 ?
ndkrempel [4d\]: for white??
rayen [1d\]: for b
rayen [1d\]: after w connects
ndkrempel [4d\]: ah i see :)
rayen [1d\]: hehe :)
]
;W[qi]
;B[pj]C[ndkrempel [4d\]: this sequence seems much better for black
rayen [1d\]: agree
Skadi [1k\]: ...
Skadi [1k\]: can't white tenuki now?
rayen [1d\]: also side has open skirt
]
;W[qj]C[Carneool: matthew has been champion for 30 years ?
rayen [1d\]: so not very ideal for w 
]
;B[jc]C[TimHunt [1d?\]: No, matthew lost last year to Bei Ge
TimHunt [1d?\]: The match was 3-2
minismurf [-\]: white had lighter options as response to Q13 though
Uberdude [1d\]: he's been champ for many years of last decades
bgachamps [?\]: check the links from bgachamps user info
]
;W[nc]C[Carneool: thanks
Skadi [1k\]: i like that hugging move
rayen [1d\]: would be fun to see another Be Gei and Matthew Macfadyen in final :)
]
;B[nd]C[Uberdude [1d\]: i want sam aitken in the final :p
TimHunt [1d?\]: Won't happen this year!
rayen [1d\]: didnt he qualify ?
Uberdude [1d\]: he lost 2 already
rayen [1d\]: ah I see
]
;W[kc]C[bgachamps [?\]: also check the links from bgachamps user info for results so far
]
;B[kd]
;W[jd]
;B[lc]C[Uberdude [1d\]: seems tough for w
Uberdude [1d\]: given e17 stupidly strong
Carneool: is black overconcentrated ?
]
;W[ic]C[TimHunt [1d?\]: Difficult for the O17, O16 exchange not to end up as a loss for white.
]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
;B[kc]C[Skadi [1k\]: this looks ok for w ...
rayen [1d\]: im not so sure
Skadi [1k\]: so did anyone count ?
rayen [1d\]: if b can attack that goup his center will become good :(
Uberdude [1d\]: if matthew can start a crazy fight
Uberdude [1d\]: he can win
]
;W[gk]C[Uberdude [1d\]: :p
rayen [1d\]: haha
Uberdude [1d\]: here we go!
rayen [1d\]: I forgot b had an unsettled group to !
Uberdude [1d\]: but b wall at q11
TimHunt [1d?\]: Roughtly Black 25 top right, 15 bottom right, 20 to left. White 15 right, 5 komi 30 bottom left + weak group to attack
Skadi [1k\]: and peep at o13
minismurf [-\]: aren't you a bit generous in your counting_
Epilogue [-\]: doesnt matter, its kibitz
TimHunt [1d?\]: Perhaps
taoweiqi: m3
rayen [1d\]:  thought about m5  but w has a followup at l5  :S
minismurf [-\]: ? :)
]
;B[ko]C[epsilon3 [3d\]: who is playing this game?
Unplugged [-\]: it's written
epsilon3 [3d\]: oh, yes, thanks
]
;W[jq]C[Unplugged [-\]: ^
rayen [1d\]: nvm .. I think m5 could have worked
minismurf [-\]: i liked m3 idea
bgachamps [?\]: W has used 15m B used 23m
taoweiqi: me too
taoweiqi: :)
theshining [1d\]: when will mathew play against bei ge?
hakky [-\]: bei ge ?
hakky [-\]: beige ?
theshining [1d\]: does anyone now?
theshining [1d\]: *know
Uberdude [1d\]: today or tomorrow :p
trolling [-\]: isnt mayfadyen the strongets brit. player actually?
theshining [1d\]: bei ge is about the same strength
]
;B[kq]C[trolling [-\]: o ok necver heard about him ^
Uberdude [1d\]: bei ge won champ last year
theshining [1d\]: jup
Korgan [3k\]: took title from mcfadyen
theshining [1d\]: i saw the broadcast .... im playing to much on the internet xD
]
;W[jp]
;B[kp]
;W[jo]C[Uberdude [1d\]: aslo there are some strong chinese people, maybe not brit citizens so can't play this
trolling [-\]: ah guojuang commented and fayden missed a big move the whole game?
Tirno [1k\]: black in trouble
]
;B[jn]
;W[kr]C[Stoepsel [-\]: J2 ?
trolling [-\]: this means fight
]
;B[lr]
;W[ir]C[Uberdude [1d\]: l7 
trolling [-\]: yeah matthew seems big ahea to me
trolling [-\]: ok not big but
bgachamps [?\]: Matthew vs Bei is Rd 5 - Sunday 10:00 BST
]
;B[kn]
;W[in]
;B[im]
;W[hn]C[trolling [-\]: cornel, what do you think about b chances left? :)
Cornel [7d\]: hi
trolling [-\]: :)
trolling [-\]: j5 simple?
Cornel [7d\]: no idea what are b's chances..busy right now :)
trolling [-\]: ah ok ^
trolling [-\]: with j5 b give up the stones but migh get a position at the side?
trolling [-\]: ok dosnt work:(
IamNoob [10k\]: how J5 doesnt work?
trolling [-\]: j5 g6
trolling [-\]: w will escape with several ataris
TimHunt [1d?\]: The question is, can black play G6?
Tirno [1k\]: white cuts
trolling [-\]: looks like b has to ^^
Skadi [1k\]: won't work
JeansebL [2k\]: it's more black who has to escape now...
trolling [-\]: b cant sacifice whole group here 
Carneool [?\]: h7 looks very good
eterion [6k?\]: no ,G6 can't work
]
;B[hm]
;W[gn]C[taoweiqi: g6 looks like trouble for one of both groups
Uberdude [1d\]: chomp chomp
]
;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[en]
;W[em]
;B[dn]C[mrkibbles [4k\]: is this the first day?
]
;W[io]C[eterion [6k?\]: E4
Skadi [1k\]: read it out before you play it
Skadi [1k\]: ...
trolling [-\]: no
TimHunt [1d?\]: See bgachamps info
bgachamps [?\]: day 2 rd 4 
IamNoob [10k\]: E4 is usless as I see it
Skadi [1k\]: j13
wicket [-\]: spot the atari eh
trolling [-\]: right noob ^
]
;B[fl]
;W[el]
;B[fk]C[minismurf [-\]: fun game like this, but corner looks too big_
bgachamps [?\]: W has used 19m  B has used 40m
Skadi [1k\]: lol
minismurf [-\]: if white is sente after pushing once more, and then jumps into the center...
trolling [-\]: this says alot (time)
trolling [-\]: still aji in the corner
taoweiqi: also thinking about that
Skadi [1k\]: a rather small aji ...
taoweiqi: yes looks like nearly no aji
]
;W[ek]
;B[fj]
;W[ig]C[Skadi [1k\]: now there is my j13 :-)
Skadi [1k\]: can't be good for b
yori [15k\]: ynda?
Skadi [1k\]: xtzf?
aaronaaron [8k\]: bgachamps?
aaronaaron [8k\]: wats that
theshining [1d\]: look in the info :P
Skadi [1k\]: i guess it's britain go association championship
taoweiqi: if i was b i would feel depressed
Skadi [1k\]: i would attack ...
stoneeater [1k\]: how?
theshining [1d\]: me to
theshining [1d\]: thats the big question for b now
taoweiqi: just see how b torns center into huge moyo in sente
]
;B[he]C[theshining [1d\]: moyo means nothing ^^
theshining [1d\]: but this time it nt neads to get teritory
taoweiqi: moyo means advantage
]
;W[hd]C[yamaraj [1d\]: its hard to close the centre
taoweiqi: yes was a joke
Carneool [?\]: wonder if white can live
]
;B[jf]C[yamaraj [1d\]: but also not easy to kill 
theshining [1d\]: thats a tough move
taoweiqi: yes k14 is nice
yamaraj [1d\]: yes
theshining [1d\]: im not sure if it very good or more like idiot bot move xD
ndkrempel [4d\]: its very good since it makes game complicated :)
yamaraj [1d\]: idiot bot is funny
theshining [1d\]: yes but its an idiot ^^
yamaraj [1d\]: hihi
yamaraj [1d\]: nomen est omen
Skadi [1k\]: so in the end keima wasn't a good choice
taoweiqi: so which move now
SanRenSei [3k\]: Hi bgachamps, just wondering how much time does each players have left?
Uberdude [1d\]: so j13 at h15 for shape?
Skadi [1k\]: j14 
yamaraj [1d\]: g15?
stoneeater [1k\]: so, instead of j13 g17 ?
Skadi [1k\]: going for the ladder 
theshining [1d\]: idiot bot is like data from star trek: doing a single digit addition in 3 hours definitly wrong
Unplugged [-\]: there has to be a way to punish, b looks fragile
taoweiqi: i m thinking about g15 aswell
yamaraj [1d\]: w must avoid get heavy
]
;W[if]C[Haikira [5k?\]: sorry,who are the players and the tournament?
]
;B[ie]C[Uberdude [1d\]: look up
]
;W[ke]C[Haikira [5k?\]: the tournament,i don't kno
Haikira [5k?\]: w
theshining [1d\]: bgachamps
Haikira [5k?\]: ok
Haikira [5k?\]: thx
Haikira [5k?\]: ^^!
taoweiqi: hmm not sure if i had played l15
yamaraj [1d\]: me too
theshining [1d\]: i dont like l15 dont think its good
Skadi [1k\]: ...
WavieDavie [10k\]: why aint l15 good?
Skadi [1k\]: then punish :-)
gepay [2k\]: b is too thick its  heavy
WavieDavie [10k\]: hes threatening the k14 stone for life
WavieDavie [10k\]: i think
]
;B[kf]
;W[le]C[yamaraj [1d\]: going for all
SunWuKong [1d\]: yikes
yamaraj [1d\]: this will be a nice fight
kiyohime [3k\]: Hihi; is there anywhere listing the results so far?
Uberdude [1d\]: game owner info
yamaraj [1d\]: l12?
Skadi [1k\]: i white preparing for an exchange?
kiyohime [3k\]: Alex beat Matthew?
kiyohime [3k\]: Nice going.
VincentV [2d?\]: is there a webcam-transmission like last time?
bgachamps [?\]: no - sorry 
]
;B[ge]C[Skadi [1k\]: nooo :-)
yamaraj [1d\]: hui
yamaraj [1d\]: going for all
taoweiqi: ha
kiyohime [3k\]: Who is relaying?
Skadi [1k\]: b has a lot of peeps
yamaraj [1d\]: yo
yamaraj [1d\]: a peep show
Uberdude [1d\]: net surely
kiyohime [3k\]: Seems J16 is bad?
]
;W[lg]
;B[id]
;W[md]C[insogo [6k\]: what`s a 'peep!'?
yamaraj [1d\]: n16 sente?
Skadi [1k\]: a forcing move
insogo [6k\]: thx
Skadi [1k\]: making your opponent connect
Uberdude [1d\]: n14 is a peep
]
;B[mc]
;W[ne]C[gepay [2k\]: a m,ove like b lor m 12
yamaraj [1d\]: n14 is nice
kiyohime [3k\]: Still needs a defesnse after this.
Uberdude [1d\]: ok, w surely win
yamaraj [1d\]: w one eye
Uberdude [1d\]: o13 is an active defense
]
;B[od]C[taoweiqi: w easily gets 2 eyes
]
;W[ng]C[kiyohime [3k\]: Yeah, I was going with O13.
gtrmsn [2d\]: game over
Uberdude [1d\]: hard to lose now
gtrmsn [2d\]: but I could not understand G15
gtrmsn [2d\]: was it necessary?
taoweiqi: if game progresses l5 and all this stuff will die
taoweiqi: hehe
NYPnoob [6d\]: m10 
Vondel [3k\]: is this live transmision?
]
;B[jh]
;W[jg]
;B[kh]
;W[kg]
;B[mi]
(;W[gh])
(;W[hi]C[yamaraj [1d\]: ups
taoweiqi: what?
taoweiqi: undo in tournament?
yamaraj [1d\]: hihi
Vondel [3k\]: lol
bgachamps [?\]: live yes - recorders error
Vondel [3k\]: this looks much better though :)
yamaraj [1d\]: gentlemen
Vondel [3k\]: this the first game of the britisch championships?
taoweiqi: a gentleman would never ask for undo
georgedorn: no one had an undo
taoweiqi: i know
Epilogue [-\]: a gentleman wouldnt use nuclear tesuji, but what do you know...
yamaraj [1d\]: b must patent for his cuts
yamaraj [1d\]: hui
]
;B[fh]
;W[gg]C[taoweiqi: damn seems like i need 2 win a tournament for getting a plus account
]
;B[ij]C[runtt21 [-\]: or just pla 15$
taoweiqi: im a student dont have no money
taoweiqi: there should be some special offers for students
monchacha [5k\]: i don't like ppl with guest account and say something that they can responsible
onion80 [5k\]: $15 is affordable for a student
taoweiqi: i dont like people who dont like people
monchacha [5k\]: correction they can't responsilble
gepay [2k\]: if you don't have it you can't spend it except for the US government
onion80 [5k\]: no, that's called credit
idiot2 [3d\]: kgs plus is a special offer for everyone :)
]
;W[lm]
;B[kl]
;W[li]C[idiot2 [3d\]: (maybe i get a membership for coining that)
]
;B[lh]
;W[mh]
;B[nh]
;W[mg]
;B[lj]
;W[ni]
;B[mj]C[Skadi [1k\]: p14
bgachamps [?\]: Photo at http://www.britgo.org/news/IMGP0932-30-Matthew-Des.JPG
GreenMunky [5k\]: that looks like a chess clock
]
;W[fg]C[Uberdude [1d\]: indeed
Uberdude [1d\]: none of those silly ing clocks
bgachamps [?\]: W has used 30m .. B has used 65m
inquire [3k\]: that might be because it functions in the exact same way as a chess clock :
feature [1d\]: where did his beard go?
inquire [3k\]: is the time written here correct? the game was played with 105 minutes main time, no byo-yomi
TimHunt [1d?\]: 15 stones in 5 mins overtime
inquire [3k\]: :O
Q [5k\]: hm.. they can see our kibitz?! :>
inquire [3k\]: this game is being played right now? :O
Uberdude [1d\]: if they look at the computer
bgachamps [?\]: from 2metres I rate it as tricky to read 10pt font
inquire [3k\]: some very skilled people can read 10pts font ^_^
TimHunt [1d?\]: Plus we are mostly talking rubbish anyway ;-)
TimHunt [1d?\]: So it doesn't matter
Q [5k\]: ^^
bgachamps [?\]: and i'm sat in fron of it except when taking photo
]
;B[hj]C[inquire [3k\]: well then, they can't really see what's written, now can they?
]
;W[fe]
;B[fd]C[GreenMunky [5k\]: is byoyomi difficult with an analog clock?
]
;W[eh]
;B[ei]
;W[gh]C[Guichocha [1d\]: no
Guichocha [1d\]: there's a flag that drops when time runs out
]
;B[dh]
;W[fi]
;B[ci]C[GreenMunky [5k\]: thanks:)
]
;W[ej]C[stoneeater [1k\]: b12?
]
;B[di]
;W[gj]
;B[gl]
;W[dg]
;B[cg]C[Guichocha [1d\]: can w get anything with K7?
]
;W[bh]
;B[bi]
;W[bg]
;B[cf]
;W[bj]C[daladim [2k\]: i dont think
daladim [2k\]: but still plenty of aji or ko threats ^^
taoweiqi: hmm why not c14
daladim [2k\]: c14 was gote maybe
taoweiqi: ah 
]
;B[ai]
;W[kj]C[minismurf [-\]: no trouble on the left now?
inquire [3k\]: hmmm..... b8 possibly for b
minismurf [-\]: c7? at least looks dangerous
minismurf [-\]: lots of reading to do there
Lore [4k\]: d5 first? :o
minismurf [-\]: d5 aji keshi i think
Intake [2d\]: c5 first better?
inquire [3k\]: c7 seems to start a semeai, but it's hard to tell who wins
Lore [4k\]: I do not understand that term. >_>
inquire [3k\]: b8 a huge endgame move
minismurf [-\]: because if c7 first, then c5 is sente also, and b may have ko potentail with b4
Lore [4k\]: :o
minismurf [-\]: d5 gains 1 liberty at most but removes that potential to make good shape
Guichocha [1d\]: which term, Lore?
Lore [4k\]: Ahh
inquire [3k\]: aji-keshi
inquire [3k\]: has been explained
Lore [4k\]: Granted I could have just looked it up at sensei's... but meh :p
]
;B[kk]
;W[nj]
;B[nk]C[minismurf [-\]: there is probably no aji there because w can live with his sente moves at acd10
]
;W[mk]C[inquire [3k\]: assuming c7 doesn't work... b8-c7-b7-c6-a10. corredct me if this is wrong
minismurf [-\]: w a10 is sente also
minismurf [-\]: so it doesnt work
]
;B[lk]
;W[ok]C[inquire [3k\]: w a10 sente?
minismurf [-\]: oops, tired :)
bgachamps [?\]: W has used 35m B has used 83m
Lore [4k\]: 83 ._.
inquire [3k\]: this cann guy thinks a lot XD
RabidKyu [6k\]: Close
Lore [4k\]: So much more endurance than I have. :p
minismurf [-\]: of course it is sente... 4 liberties to 3
inquire [3k\]: ah... yes :S
Lore [4k\]: White is taking up his own liberty possibilities though isn't he?
inquire [3k\]: so nothing there
bgachamps [?\]: A view of the other 3 tables at http://www.britgo.org/news/IMGP0933-30-the-other-room.JPG
Lore [4k\]: If it is walled off at the top, d6 looks pretty lose in comparison to me. :x
Lore [4k\]: loose*
minismurf [-\]: what is a liberty possibility? :)
]
;B[of]C[Lore [4k\]: Truth: I don't exactly know. >_>
]
;W[hk]C[GreenMunky [5k\]: is that fellow by the window t. mark hall?
bgachamps [?\]: yes
]
;B[ik]C[GreenMunky [5k\]: thanks:)
sixin1999 [11k?\]: 晕.全是英语..
]
;W[or]C[inquire [3k\]: hmm..... this seems like a pretty close game, no?
Cuda [2k\]: shhs, soon someone will yell that one or the other should resign
TimHunt [1d?\]: I just counted and thought that. I think white is ahead by less than 5
sixin1999 [11k?\]: 有没有在.QQ玩.或者.新浪.弈城呀
minismurf [-\]: if w can cut at m3 he would enlarge the territory significantly?
minismurf [-\]: oh, b n3 first
Cuda [2k\]: Sort of doing that now?
minismurf [-\]: and then w links, and b defends corner
Cuda [2k\]: I would think so
]
;B[pr]C[sixin1999 [11k?\]: 联众.或.清风TOM.也行呀
elohimmeth [12k\]: p2 good move
]
;W[ml]C[RabidKyu [6k\]: Seems W has pulled ahead by 10.
inquire [3k\]: huge move
Guichocha [1d\]: if w M3 then b N3 etc.
bgachamps [?\]: Result - Will bt Sam
Lacrimosa [4k?\]: will /o/
TimHunt [1d?\]: Wow, so everyone has won at least one game
inquire [3k\]: where there is a will, there is a way ^_^
]
;B[pk]
;W[pl]C[inquire [3k\]: funy that b thinks for half a minute and w responds after 3 seconds XD
GreenMunky [5k\]: hard to know the thinking time when games are relayed though
inquire [3k\]: true
inquire [3k\]: you know what might be kinda funny? watching a go game on tv XD
inquire [3k\]: or listening to it on radio :S
bgachamps [?\]: moves will come in groups when they move quickly 
georgedorn: bgachamps, can you tell us the times the players have left?
Vondel [3k\]: bs9?
GreenMunky [5k\]: in korea there is go on tv, i think also in japan during title matches
bgachamps [?\]: B has 14m remaining - W has used 40m
bgachamps [?\]: so W has 65m remaining
Vondel [3k\]: time was 105 min?
georgedorn: thx
Vondel [3k\]: 1 hrs 45 min
]
;B[ks]
;W[jr]C[inquire [3k\]: doesn't it seem kinda boring to watch a game on tv wth no kibbitz? or do they have pros giving comments during breaks or something?
Uberdude [1d\]: w made nice little territory in middle
niki [3k\]: usually tv broacasting is commented
inquire [3k\]: :O
inquire [3k\]: o4? :O
minismurf [-\]: there are a couple of pros in china who are more famous for their looks and/or comments on tv than their game results
Cuda [2k\]: baduktv ;_;
Cuda [2k\]: It was so nice
bgachamps [?\]: yes 1hr 45m - tried using the igoweb.info/broadcast.html to set canadian 15 moves in 5m .. but obviously did it wrong ..
bgachamps [?\]: not SD
]
;B[hr]C[inquire [3k\]: SD such an inconvenient time system
elohimmeth [12k\]: oh
Vondel [3k\]: this looks dangerous
taoweiqi: baduk tv isnt on air anymore?
taoweiqi: id love to see that in english
elohimmeth [12k\]: oo how i enjoy in toilet
theshining [1d\]: g2 ?
]
;W[gr]
;B[hq]C[theshining [1d\]: hehe
Uberdude [1d\]: i'm thinking d6 has lots of aji
inquire [3k\]: h1 seems fine. w will have to give 2 stones up though
Uberdude [1d\]: how does w deal with c7 for example
taoweiqi: yes maybe it now gains soeme power
]
;W[cn]C[inquire [3k\]: though about whether semeas is good for him?
inquire [3k\]: semeai*
minismurf [-\]: now it lost most power again
Uberdude [1d\]: so if h3 at c7, then what for w?
Uberdude [1d\]: some tricky semeai
pershing [3d\]: matty
]
;B[re]C[Komodo [1k\]: s15 is big
Komodo [1k\]: ^^
]
;W[ps]
;B[qs]
;W[os]C[Uberdude [1d\]: s9 too
]
;B[rr]C[inquire [3k\]: s9 quite big indeedn
]
;W[np]C[inquire [3k\]: t10 seems to work XD
]
;B[lo]
;W[mr]
;B[lq]C[elohimmeth [12k\]: s7
Uberdude [1d\]: but gote
]
;W[rf]
;B[rk]
;W[qk]
;B[rl]
;W[rj]C[Komodo [1k\]: e14 is nice
bgachamps [?\]: B has 4m remaining, W has 61m
holywood [3d\]: haha
Meloku [?\]: lmao
rayen [1d\]: lol
RSG [12k\]: xD
Komodo [1k\]: is there byo yomi?
inquire [3k\]: b will lose by time if he keeps playing so slow in byo-yomi
dangodan [2d\]: seems b win a few point
Uberdude [1d\]: well, he won't inquire =)
Uberdude [1d\]: actually, was s7 bigger than s14?
Meloku [?\]: though he's used more time, B wins
inquire [3k\]: hm... sems s7 WAS bigger to me....
]
;B[ef]C[Uberdude [1d\]: Komodo is on the phone to des!
inquire [3k\]: btw it looks like it;s very close right now to me... no more than 2 points difference. though this move changes that
gtrmsn [2d\]: the upper side is really large
dangodan [2d\]: european godatabase says w have a 16-0 score
dangodan [2d\]: des will be happy if he wins
inquire [3k\]: well, he might get a 16-1
iaznab [4k\]: I bet b will be totally pissed off if he wins :P
]
;W[eg]C[Lacrimosa [4k?\]: i'd love to have 16-1 against matthew :>
]
;B[ff]C[iaznab [4k\]: of course he will be happy :P
Uberdude [1d\]: macfadyen is maybe off his game recently
Uberdude [1d\]: or maybe bei ge is stronger than previous challngers
inquire [3k\]: okay... b+7?
Haikira [5k?\]: black is slightly ahed?
Meloku [?\]: there's nothing W can do now
minismurf [-\]: yes, hard to lose more than 2 points in remaining endgame
]
;W[bf]
;B[be]
;W[df]
;B[ce]C[Uberdude [1d\]: k11 ?
]
;W[ii]
;B[ji]
;W[qe]
;B[rd]
;W[rm]
;B[sm]
;W[qm]
;B[sl]
;W[gf]
;B[ee]
;W[aj]
;B[af]C[minismurf [-\]: o14 is probably biggest after the sente moves
RSG [12k\]: what does BGA stand for?
Hylebos [9k\]: British Go association, right?
blackrain [6k\]: british go assoc
RSG [12k\]: oh, thx/
blackrain [6k\]: :)
]
;W[oh]C[bgachamps [?\]: B is in overtime
Uberdude [1d\]: t12 for b
]
;B[js]
;W[is]
;B[ls]C[Laza [4d\]: what's matthew acc. here?
minismurf [-\]: t12 doesnt work
fosil [-\]: damezumari
Uberdude [1d\]: awww, do i have to read
dangodan [2d\]: rubberduck
]
;W[ln]
;B[nf]
;W[me]
;B[mf]
;W[lf]
;B[op]
;W[oo]C[Cobja [4k\]: t12
minismurf [-\]: white winning by a couple it seems?
Laza [4d\]: might be
bgachamps [?\]: Result - Alex bt T Mark (Alex in overtime - T Mark used 31m )
wordplay [4d\]: is sam vs will finished?
TimHunt [1k?\]: will won
bgachamps [?\]: bgachamps user info will try to stay up-to-date
Komodo [1k\]: n1 kills 21 ponts
Jenghis [1k\]: 21 points?
Komodo [1k\]: 2
Komodo [1k\]: ^^
Jenghis [1k\]: :)
kame [3k\]: I feel stupid
huli [5k\]: 1 point is actually 10.5 ponts
kame [3k\]: please explain h1 to me
kame [3k\]: ahh!
kame [3k\]: all set, thanks!
kame [3k\]: stupidity confirmed
ken22 [6k\]: b h8 is the worst move for 8k or higher
Hylebos [9k\]: Lol, no kidding.
]
;B[km]
;W[se]
;B[sd]
;W[sf]C[ken22 [6k\]: now it's ok :)
Hylebos [9k\]: Yep.
]
(;B[pd])
(;B[ll]
;W[nl]
;B[hl]
;W[gi]C[Komodo [1k\]: n1!!!!
Komodo [1k\]: then b win
]
;B[mp]
;W[no]C[Haikira [5k?\]: ???
]
;B[ih]C[pastachees [5k\]: why j12?
Derrida [5k\]: h12
holywood [3d\]: h12 pretty bad move
]
;W[dj]C[Jenghis [1k\]: gote
Derrida [5k\]: gote
holywood [3d\]: n1 only way
JKC [-\]: ..
]
;B[ag]C[Komodo [1k\]: n3 is better
]
;W[pe]
;B[pd]C[Komodo [1k\]: n3 is better then n1
]
;W[hh]C[Derrida [5k\]: but h12 that bad?
ken22 [6k\]: hehe
]
;B[jj]C[ken22 [6k\]: trick
]
;W[hf]C[elMonk [3d\]: h12 was 1 point gote
demented [3k\]: p13 wins the game?
]
;B[mq]
;W[ms]
;B[oq]
;W[nr]C[onion80 [5k\]: umm?
]
;B[ah]
;W[cj]C[holywood [3d\]: black wins
pastachees [5k\]: black leading pretty heavily, right?
onion80 [5k\]: wasn't o2 worth a point?
Uberdude [1d\]: no
JKC [-\]: yea
dangodan [2d\]: b win 0,5
Montchik [3k\]: no
pastachees [5k\]: ok
ThirtyCent [3k\]: d10 bad
Uberdude [1d\]: count to 1
michiel2 [3k\]: i count 1.5 :/
ThirtyCent [3k\]: c10 first
stoneeater [1k\]: what about komi?
demented [3k\]: o12 o9 
JKC [-\]: you cant count in 3 seconds im afraid...
Tamacun [?\]: blacks wnis by 0.5 point yes
Uberdude [1d\]: i can count to 1 in less than a second
Kamisama [3k\]: SE says 2,5
bgachamps [?\]: a few more to record .. game over and counting ..
michiel2 [3k\]: count in 3 seconds?
Kamisama [3k\]: i think its correct?
Lacrimosa [4k?\]: but my friend Randy can
michiel2 [3k\]: did i say i counted in three seconds? -_-'
Tamacun [?\]: se is wrong
JKC [-\]: yea
Tamacun [?\]: misses o12 and o9
michiel2 [3k\]: some people....
JKC [-\]: some people..
Kamisama [3k\]: B+2,5
demented [3k\]: ....
demented [3k\]: you sure?
bgachamps [?\]: Des won by 0.5
sclmath [3k\]: T10
Windster [11k\]: yea
Uberdude [1d\]: wow
stoneeater [1k\]: congrats
TheThing [?\]: well done. good game
michiel2 [3k\]: t10
DarkLife [4k?\]: white win ?
demented [3k\]: no 
demented [3k\]: b +0.5
Kamisama [3k\]: where do you get 0,5
GreenMunky [5k\]: by counting?
demented [3k\]: kinda 
DarkLife [4k?\]: with komi white +0.5 
Kamisama [3k\]: komi is 6,5
Kamisama [3k\]: not 7,5
]
;B[do]
;W[ep]
;B[co]
;W[bn]C[orvokki [4k\]: who said its 7,5?
]
;B[sj]C[asap [11k\]: hmmmmm seems w+0.5
]
;W[sn]
;B[so]
;W[si]C[Kamisama [3k\]: i cant find out why its 0,5
Kamisama [3k\]: if i look at SE, it looks accurate now
demented [3k\]: ....
]
(;B[sn]C[orvokki [4k\]: no
orvokki [4k\]: o9 and o12 wrong
enguest [2k\]: o12 and o9 also points
enguest [2k\]: ues
elohimmeth [12k\]: p13
Kamisama [3k\]: ah
Kamisama [3k\]: yes your right
Kamisama [3k\]: it didnt count o9 and o12, thanks
])
(;B[dm]
;W[bo]
;B[sn]
;W[og]
;B[pf]
;W[sk]C[TimHunt [1k?\]: A bit harsh for Matthew to loose two games by 0.5 points
]
;B[hs]C[daladim [2k\]: isnt that ko deciding the game ?
GreenMunky [5k\]: did they play out the ko then?
]
;W[cm]
;B[sj]
;W[gd]C[elohimmeth [12k\]: r3
GreenMunky [5k\]: i thought even if w takes it he's short
]
;B[fe]
;W[sk]
;B[ho]
;W[dl]
;B[sj]
;W[hb]
;B[gb]
;W[sk]C[lior343 [12k\]: איק 
lior343 [12k\]: ?
enguest [2k\]: ick?
]
;B[mm]
;W[mn]C[lior343 [12k\]: the play over?
]
;B[sj]
;W[nb]
;B[mb]
;W[sk]C[enguest [2k\]: will be in a moment =)
]
;B[ld]
;W[sj]C[bgachamps [?\]: end of game
enguest [2k\]: matthew lost the previous one by 0.5?
minue622 [7d?\]: sigh, w should have played S3 instead of T10
GreenMunky [5k\]: thank you for the relaying :)
Morda [16k\]: what is this?
Haikira [5k?\]: matthew lost by 0,5
Haikira [5k?\]: it was a very exciting game^^!
bgachamps [?\]: Hope you all enjoyed  .. Matthew vs Bei tomorrow morning at 10:00 BST
bliblablou [3k\]: S3 doesn't work does it?
minue622 [7d?\]: it works 
demented [3k\]: BST whats that how much is it in GTM?
Carneool [?\]: s3 r4 and ?
enguest [2k\]: minue, and the resulting ko... would have won it? =)
enguest [2k\]: lol
minue622 [7d?\]: tr4, then T2
georgedorn: why not t4 first?
georgedorn: I mean, s3 r3 t4 ?
minue622 [7d?\]: it doesnt make differece,
georgedorn: ok
minue622 [7d?\]: just t2 is enough when b playes R3
georgedorn: understood
bgachamps [?\]: result: Bei Ge bt David Ward
Xilux [3d\]: s3?
jowzer [8k\]: shouldn't W resign?
minue622 [7d?\]: game was over here?
bliblablou [3k\]: yep ok S3 works...
demented [3k\]: s3 r4 then what?
philiph [3d\]: t2
minue622 [7d?\]: r4 then, T2,  I said
Carneool [?\]: nice
jowzer [8k\]: um
jowzer [8k\]: that doesn't do anything
demented [3k\]: s3 r3 then?
ken22 [6k\]: nice gameb won
minue622 [7d?\]: r3 then still T2
georgedorn: lol
demented [3k\]: ok .... this bites 
Carneool [?\]: does that mean white can still win ?
demented [3k\]: w won by 0.5 thrn ... damn 
sasuri [9k\]: b+0.5?
demented [3k\]: w +0.5
sasuri [9k\]: ok thx
demented [3k\]: poor b 
geology9: white why continue?
demented [3k\]: white won !! 
georgedorn: because w won
jowzer [8k\]: how did W in?
demented [3k\]: lol
georgedorn: count and see
ken22 [6k\]:  clone the game and see the score
demented [3k\]: ....easier
jowzer [8k\]: I just did
demented [3k\]: correct SEs mistaks
ken22 [6k\]: and b won 0.5
demented [3k\]: b have to play in s5 
ken22 [6k\]: oh
demented [3k\]: to avoid a ko or he can chose a ko and still lose 
demented [3k\]: i think 
geology9: black win 0.5 points
georgedorn: impossible ko for b 
TotoroShan [2d\]: w + 0.5
ken22 [6k\]: t5 group look unstable
ken22 [6k\]: maybe b think of it
ken22 [6k\]: if b fills in a stone b lose 0.5
ken22 [6k\]: tough decision
georgedorn: not very tough since alternatives are lose a ko or take a seki and lose by more than 0.5
ken22 [6k\]: i hope b pass
Carneool [?\]: are the players aware of s3 ?
hulken [1d\]: take a guess
georgedorn: I wonder what b is thinking about. Must defend or resign
ken22 [6k\]: that's why the game not end yet
Carneool [?\]: no, i want to know :-)
hulken [1d\]: sins the game is not over well im guessing YES
ken22 [6k\]: s3 t3
ndkrempel [4d\]: if s3 t3, r4..
ken22 [6k\]: oh
ken22 [6k\]: didn'[t see this
sigmundur [5k\]: isn't it b+0.5?
ken22 [6k\]: s3 r3
Skadi [1k\]: t2 then
ken22 [6k\]: sure it tricky play
ken22 [6k\]: is b counting
viol9k: white simply has more ko-threats
ndkrempel [4d\]: if bplayed t6 instead of starting ko could he win game?
minue622 [7d?\]: yes
ken22 [6k\]: miscal then
KawaiiNeko [3k?\]: can it be s3 s4~?
KawaiiNeko [3k?\]: ah nvm~
ken22 [6k\]: this is something that i can learn from
ken22 [6k\]: never fall into this trap
asap [11k\]: is seki not possible in the bottom right?
sjd123 [7k\]: yes, but then b would lose
cnono [5k?\]: B can add a stone and win, no ?
phoboid [15k\]: no
georgedorn: if b adds a stone, b loses by 0.5
cnono [5k?\]: sure , i recompt ... :)
minismurf [-\]: ? does b have time left?
KawaiiNeko [3k?\]: looks like b way ahead, is it aga rules~?
sjd123 [7k\]: nope, japanese
sjd123 [7k\]: I think
cnono [5k?\]: with another b move, isn't a 0.5 win for b ? i am so bad in compting...
KawaiiNeko [3k?\]: i rely on se :p~
Vondel [3k\]: game over already?
cnono [5k?\]: i see the results :) the game is over
Vondel [3k\]: se sais B  +2,5
cnono [5k?\]: b win 0.5 pt
ken22 [6k\]: look at t5 group
minismurf [-\]: b needs one more move no?
ken22 [6k\]: yes
ken22 [6k\]: r4
cnono [5k?\]: yes, he plaied it
cnono [5k?\]: and won.
yori [15k\]: where?
yori [15k\]: j3 orj4 ?
minismurf [-\]: i still see it as a 0.5 point win for white then, with score est or counting manually
viol9k: has the game ended?
yori [15k\]: i think so but i dont know
glint [?\]: Des Cann bt  Matthew Macfadyen - by 0.5 pt
glint [?\]: from bgachamps info :)
]))))
