(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
GN[British Championship Match]PW[Junnan Jiang]PB[Charles Hibbert]DT[2017-02-19]RO[3]PC[The Young Chelsea Bridge Club, London]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[dq]
;W[pd]
;B[cf]
;W[fc]
;B[ck]
;W[nq]
;B[kp]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: Game looks fairly even at the moment though.
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;B[on]C[Zonked [3d\]: r5 would normally be at r7
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Still a lot to play for.
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;W[qq]
;B[pq]
;W[qp]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[po]
;W[rm]
;B[mo]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: I don't understand N5.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: It feels like black is committing too soon.
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: it does look bad ^^
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;W[co]
;B[ep]
;W[cm]
;B[cp]
;W[bp]C[Nyanjilla [-\]: It's Evented
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;B[bq]
;W[em]C[BGATeach [-\]: Morning all.
begin [-\]: hi mathew what rank they are?
BGATeach [-\]: Looks like they have been thnking quite hard.
begin [-\]: look like 3-4d
begin [-\]: ?
BGATeach [-\]: Also looks like Junnan hasn tried to kill anything yet, quite late on for him
BGAadmin [-\]: it started late as one of the players had a delayed train
BGAadmin [-\]: black has used just over 20 min and white 10 min
Warfreak2 [-\]: w is 5d, b is 3d
SimbaRules [5d?\]: E9 feels natural now, move out with white.
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;B[ek]
;W[gm]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black has wo tasks here. One to complete his left side, one to seal off the bottom.
Warfreak2 [-\]: so far they're 1-1 so this is the decider, but charles did beat junnan in the challengers it seems
Warfreak2 [-\]: then lost to alistair wall!
BGATeach [-\]: Heres a naive approch for Black:
Warfreak2 [-\]: game is at g7
SimbaRules [5d?\]: ahhh
SimbaRules [5d?\]: I was gonna say, wow, they blitzed that out, lol
BGATeach [-\]: Better count the lower side.
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(;B[hp]C[BGATeach [-\]: If Black has 50 lower side, white needs 15 in each of three groups plus komi to come close
BGATeach [-\]: This black move takes away all the tension.
BGATeach [-\]: now White is content to leave any problems at the bottom as Blacks problems
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(;W[bd]C[BGATeach [-\]: B16 surprises me. I was wondering if White might try a fancy move like P13
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;B[nc]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: difficult to pull off a move like p13 if you aren't matthew macfadyen!
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;W[oc]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: w loves territory doesn't he, lol
Warfreak2 [-\]: it is how you win
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;B[nd]
;W[qf]C[BGATeach [-\]: It occurred a couple of times in the Honinbo match between Takemiya and Yamashiro
SimbaRules [5d?\]: haha
bleu [5k\]: what's the difference between this game and the other same one?
Warfreak2 [-\]: this one has commentary by british-champion-for-life matthew macfadyen
bleu [5k\]: then, delete the nother one :)
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;B[jc]C[BGATeach [-\]: This looks almost as if it might become a game with a yose
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;W[ch]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: as i understand it, charles hibbert is unlikely to play a peaceful game
begin [-\]: catch and run lol
SimbaRules [5d?\]: g9 feels like the critical point
SimbaRules [5d?\]: puts pressure on both sides' groups
BGATeach [-\]: If you saw game 2 you would think junnan had breakfasted on raw dragon meat
BGATeach [-\]: Now heres a question. If Black plays G9, how good is his attack?
BGATeach [-\]: If Black wants to fight straight away, here is how:
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(;B[dh]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black goes for the direct, peaceful line
BGATeach [-\]: notice that you dont do contact against the stone you are trying to kill
bleu [5k\]: which move is the actual game?
BGATeach [-\]: This one is the game
begin [-\]: im hungry
Warfreak2 [-\]: d12 feels gristly
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Order Domino's.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Get me some too.
BGATeach [-\]: D12 is odd. There is a big issue on the right side.
BGATeach [-\]: Black P7 is almost sente, so that would be a good place for White to start
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;W[di]
;B[ci]C[BGATeach [-\]: This crosscut is the normal shape to settle Black quickly.
BGATeach [-\]: Whites simple line is this:
BGATeach [-\]: Here is a more combative line
BGATeach [-\]: In this position, Black can easily live on the right side,white has a tough life at the bottom
BGATeach [-\]: so logic says th right side is bigger, provided white can make territory with one move
BGATeach [-\]: my feeling is that the right side  is thin for White with just one move, so i want to play P7
BGATeach [-\]: Then Black bottom is thinner, and White right would be more secure
begin [-\]: d12 bad?
BGATeach [-\]: D12 was the simple way to play assuming the left side is unimportant
BGATeach [-\]: I agree. The right side seems biggest to me
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Even if white plays P7, it feels like black could reduce at Q13 without too much stress.
BGATeach [-\]: Yes simba. Or Black could invade properly with R13.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Would you have completely tenukied the left instead of D12 then?
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Immediately going to the right as black at that point?
BGATeach [-\]: The point for white is that it takes two moves to get a side he can win the game with, say P7 and Q11. 
BGATeach [-\]: and if it is a 2 move job, play one of the 2 moves, not something wishy wshy.
BGATeach [-\]: and do the one with other meanings first
BGATeach [-\]: P7 definitely helps the K4 invasion
BGATeach [-\]: I like D12
BGATeach [-\]: it forces White to settle the left side
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(;W[cj]
;B[bi]
;W[eh]
(;B[dg]
;W[dj]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: couldn't black have just played d10 instead of d13?
BGATeach [-\]: Charles didnt think long about D13
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;B[bj]
;W[dk]C[BGATeach [-\]: Simply black B9 looks good
Uberdude [3d?\]: shame black never got the f6 peep
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(;B[dl]
;W[cl]
;B[bk]
;W[fj]C[BGATeach [-\]: This is odd. Black has helped to fix whites bad shape.
Uberdude [3d?\]: yeah, leaving aji like this is the sort of thing charles likes to do, but i don't see how it's going to be useful
Uberdude [3d?\]: junnan has enough time and sense to ensure another fighting doesnt end up in g9 area
BGATeach [-\]: If Black just played B9 and White F10 then D8 would still be available
mnoplol [1d\]: b looks better
BGATeach [-\]: I like Blacks position too
l9xl9 [-\]: time to do something on the right?
Uberdude [3d?\]: i think he didn't like white solidly defending at d8
BGATeach [-\]: white D8 would be lovely for Black, it is absolutely gote
BGATeach [-\]: Black is strong everywhere, so he can afford a weak group. Like this:
Warfreak2 [-\]: b has no unstable groups, w will have difficulty using d10 group effectively i think
Uberdude [3d?\]: yeah b16 is a tough one to judge
BGATeach [-\]: White uses D10 by invading K4 without fear 
BGATeach [-\]: I have not read K4 properly, but it feels right to me.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Black P14 is an interesting option too, I've seen that shape a few times.
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, P14 is very good when O17 is weak, and also when O17 can expand.
BGAadmin [-\]: the players have stopped for lunch. We will resume in about an hour
SimbaRules [5d?\]: See you all in a bit :) good eats.
BGATeach [-\]: Here it looks like P14 gets Q13 for a local loss
Uberdude [3d?\]: many pros tend to like b16 move fairly early though, but i think alphago tends not to
Uberdude [3d?\]: at london in my game against haylee i actually played an opening inducing her to play b16 for a big moyo
BGATeach [-\]: Lunch time? Two exercises for those not hungry:
BGATeach [-\]: Count the game as accurately as you can
BGATeach [-\]: see what aji Black has in the centre. What exactly happens to black F9?
wolokom [5k\]: and is a littel ahed
BGATeach [-\]: this is the lunch position
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: close game
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: now that white so strong looks like black needs to defend the bottom
BGATeach [-\]: Black might try H7 immediately, to see if he can complete the lower side by using up some of the aji.
Zonked [3d\]: how do u get a shape like that?!?!
BGATeach [-\]: This is the game
Zonked [3d\]: the p6 move looks unreal
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: it's from typical mistake joseki
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: surprising that black played it, even if he wanted the influence for bottom left
Uberdude [3d?\]: yeah q6 old joskei slight istake but q3 surely mistake
Uberdude [3d?\]: and n5 weird to compound the issue
BGATeach [-\]: N5 certainly looks odd. Lets go back to the joseki:
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(;B[hn]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: Yes, agree.
Uberdude [3d?\]: and ~ 22 of 25 pros agree in waltheri
BGATeach [-\]: This was the sequence played. Ah, they are back from lunch....
SimbaRules [5d?\]: H6 played?
BGAadmin [-\]: yes
SimbaRules [5d?\]: I guess black is happy to clean up some aji at the bottom in exchange for allowing white H7 influence.
BGATeach [-\]: Black is content to defend in gote. But watch out. His lower side now cost one more move so it has to be 15 points bigger
BGAadmin [-\]: H6 was the sealed move
SimbaRules [5d?\]: I kind of want to P7 but it feels like P7 and a move around P14/Q13 are miai.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: But I don't want black to get P7.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: That turn is so big.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Perhaps H7 for J7 first though.
Uberdude [3d?\]: i want to sleeve tesuji p6 to p7 where it should have been in the first place =)
SimbaRules [5d?\]: haha.
BGATeach [-\]: How about white O14 now? That more or less forces Black to invade the right side, then White can look toinvade M17 atd take all the territory away from the top
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: well, i don't hink you can play p6 at p7 at the time it was played
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Yes, I like O14 a lot.
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: if o14 would black just r17
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Mmm, but black's top centre group isn't too strong.
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: or does black need to prepare with moves like q15 first 
SimbaRules [5d?\]: He needs to be careful R17ing.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: (after white O14 that is)
SimbaRules [5d?\]: what do you think of q3 at r5 Uber?
SimbaRules [5d?\]: ahhh, my chat is messing up
Uberdude [3d?\]: locally the right move but w is happy to get good direction into lower side
Uberdude [3d?\]: thats why i don't like q6
SimbaRules [5d?\]: mmm
Uberdude [3d?\]: o4 attach and the joseki is right direction for b
SimbaRules [5d?\]: yeah
Uberdude [3d?\]: q6 attach is what oldies who learnt go from japanese books in the 60s play =)
SimbaRules [5d?\]: We need to get them doing press conferences like at the chess world championship
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Ask Charles why he played N5
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Maybe he did some study for it.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: I've never seen it before.
BGATeach [-\]: IMO the direction issue at the bottom right is rather small tht early in the game
Uberdude [3d?\]: the theory was lean on the stronger (non pincered) stone and gobble up the pincered one
Uberdude [3d?\]: but black gets a slack shape this way
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;W[kq]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: oooh
SimbaRules [5d?\]: action
Uberdude [3d?\]: so the newer idea (maybe korea in 90s) is attach on the pincered stone because it leads to good shape
BGATeach [-\]: Wow. This is a proper'dont believe you' move
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: aji! aji! aji!
Uberdude [3d?\]: kinda funny for koreans to play better shape than japanese
SimbaRules [5d?\]: This is the kind of move you want to have 3 hours for, lol.
Uberdude [3d?\]: seems a big cheeky
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Many a Tygem game was lost here.
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: this is the aggravating move that even if you kill it you will probably feel bad
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: the probelm isn't killing
BGATeach [-\]: My first idea with Black would be Q2. This gives a straight 10 point gain, and if white cant live th game is over
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;B[lq]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: it's killing without losing many points
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: white wouldn't need to live
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: just get 11 point gain on the outside
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Yeah, this needs to be quite clean.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: But white could make black very thick if he's not careful.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: Better endgame in the centre perhaps.
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;W[jp]C[BGATeach [-\]: notice Black has a strong sente move at H8, so it is dangerous for white to escape in that direction
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;B[jq]
;W[kr]C[BGATeach [-\]: It cant be right for black to play K2 and then think
SimbaRules [5d?\]: It looks like white can give up those two stones and get some nice reduction moves.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: From the centre.
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;B[jr]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: m4 now and sacrifice, squeezy sort of thing
BGATeach [-\]: White looks pretty dead
SimbaRules [5d?\]: so white doesn't need to die
BGATeach [-\]: White is in real danger of losing his sente move at Q2. This would be a 10 ppint loss
BGATeach [-\]: I think white is completely dead here. nothing much better than L5 sente
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(;W[lp]
;B[ko]
;W[mp]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: I don't see why white can't M5 instead of N4.
BGATeach [-\]: Still looks dead
BGATeach [-\]: White is trying to steal about 10 points of black territory, and is taking gote, this only makes sense if he has a followup attack on Q3
BGATeach [-\]: The difference for white between this and just playing P7 is about a 20 point loss
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(;B[lo]
;W[or]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black is now really thick in the centre, and can invade more deeply:  
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(;B[pr]C[BGATeach [-\]: No, black should play k1 in sente, that is a clean double sente endgame.
BGATeach [-\]: And black should probably do it immediately because it is hard not to answer white K1
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;W[lr]
;B[ks]C[BGATeach [-\]: This would be a good time for white to wake up and play P7 or O8, they are bigger than the small life on the side
BGATeach [-\]: Maybe Q10 now Black is so strong
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;W[ls]
;B[js]
;W[mq]
;B[ql]
;W[qm]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black R13 is proper timing on the right side, unless he has ambitions o invade S16 later
BGATeach [-\]: Best yose moves around H17? anyone got any theories?
MMXVII [3k\]: just h17?
BGATeach [-\]: e.g. can black play F18?
MMXVII [3k\]: black might be able to....... not sure I could
kcharris12 [-\]: for some reason i think g18
BGATeach [-\]: H17 is good for W, but black h17 gets G18 and gains very few points
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;B[nl]C[BGATeach [-\]: O8 says he ca win by surrounding the centre. Maybe H9 next??
kcharris12 [-\]: can w strengthen top right and help r7?
BGATeach [-\]: Heres a possibility:
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(;W[gp]C[BGATeach [-\]: OMG Junnan has no shame
BGATeach [-\]: this is not a clean threat to kill.
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(;B[hq]
;W[il]
;B[gn]C[BGAadmin [-\]: this has not updated the last couple of moves
BGAadmin [-\]: ah ok a little delay
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;W[lc]C[BGATeach [-\]: Gosh, the game is getting really messy
MMXVII [3k\]: fun
kcharris12 [-\]: w must feel behind
MMXVII [3k\]: ...to watch
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;B[kd]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: wowzers this koseumi
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;W[nb]
;B[mb]C[kcharris12 [-\]: o18 felt nice
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;W[ob]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: hmm o18 is a bit soft to me
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;B[lb]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: against kosumi w might try to be more severe
BGATeach [-\]: Yes, One of Blacks ways was to play O18 immediately himself
BGATeach [-\]: This is a gain for White, but not that much because Black could use the corner aji either with P18 or with R13, and he still has R13
kcharris12 [-\]: is p9 good here? seems less because of j8
kcharris12 [-\]: maybe just different
BGATeach [-\]: P9 is too slow. We are getting to the endgame, there are big points around R12, G18, H8
kcharris12 [-\]: thx
BGATeach [-\]: Black can also try F9 and steal the eyes from the whole white group
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;W[hm]C[BGATeach [-\]: Yes, this was huge
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: it really looks like white will win
BGATeach [-\]: rough count;
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;B[fn]
;W[en]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black bottom 40, top10, left, 10.total 60.  White top left 15, top right 20, lower right, 10, centre 15, total 60. White has komi but it is blacks move
BGATeach [-\]: lets look at f18
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(;B[qj]C[BGATeach [-\]: This move is big, and aims at stuff (like making s2 sente)
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: tempting to just take s2 then 
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: r2*
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: but a bit slow
BGATeach [-\]: Yes white can R2, then maybe  s13 is big enough?
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(;W[pk]C[BGATeach [-\]: so play r13 now, while white is constrained
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(;B[ok]
;W[qk]
;B[pj]
;W[rk]C[BGATeach [-\]: White is collecting real points here, also enough spare eyes that s2 will not be sente
BGATeach [-\]: Black can try to make trouble in the corner
BGATeach [-\]: ok back to the game
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(;B[pe]C[BGATeach [-\]: Another shock move
BGATeach [-\]: Lets look if black had just played normal endgame:
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;W[oe]C[BGATeach [-\]: heres the game
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(;B[od]
;W[qd]
;B[of]
;W[ne]
;B[me]
;W[nf]
;B[pf]
;W[ng]C[BGATeach [-\]: Heres the game
BGATeach [-\]: a little reading exercise:
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(;B[oh]C[BGATeach [-\]: Charles disagreed with my reading
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;W[qe]C[BGATeach [-\]: Or he thinks the attack on O14 is a win
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;B[nh]
;W[lf]
;B[kf]
;W[le]
;B[ld]
;W[og]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black had to play r13 first
BGATeach [-\]: this ws a huge blunder. White has got away with a lot here
BGATeach [-\]: Now almost resignable for Black
BGATeach [-\]: A pity because O12 was quite pointless in any case
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;B[lg]C[BGATeach [-\]: now black has to try F9 to recoup something
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;W[mf]
;B[ke]
;W[md]
;B[mc]
;W[mh]
(;B[mg]
;W[ph]
;B[mi]
;W[lh]
;B[kg]C[BGATeach [-\]: White got sente from nowhere
BGATeach [-\]: Now H10 would end the game absolutely
BGATeach [-\]: but he probably wants to cut P10 and kill somethng
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;W[oj]
;B[oi]C[BGATeach [-\]: My guess is that Junnan wants to escape in sente with the M12 stones, and then attack the M18 group by playing big endgame at J18
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;W[nj]C[BGATeach [-\]: but this is really greedy, he can thicken around F9 and win easily
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;B[pi]C[BGATeach [-\]: white already gave up 5 points by allowing r12 atari
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;W[ki]
;B[qh]
;W[qg]
;B[kj]C[BGATeach [-\]: the p10 stones should die in gote here, then black f9 and he neednt resign yet
Uberdude [3d?\]: f9 does what?
BGATeach [-\]: rescues E9, makes a false eye of D8 and attacks the whole white shape
Uberdude [3d?\]: doesn't w just g10?
BGATeach [-\]: but mostly it argues with the count of the game saying 15 white points in the middle and white wins by 15
Uberdude [3d?\]: doesn't it just die?
Uberdude [3d?\]: i think w can extend then hane
Uberdude [3d?\]: or extend twice
BGATeach [-\]: Junnan is having a long think, maybe counting whether he can just give up all this silly stuff and play yose
BGATeach [-\]: catching q14 was enormous
BGAadmin [-\]: this is Matthew's variation not the game
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(;W[jj]
;B[ji]C[BGATeach [-\]: this K10 looks very sensible. Black can catch two stones with K11, but that is small and gote
Warfreak2 [-\]: unless b doesn't go for just the two stones
Warfreak2 [-\]: he might extend from the atari
Warfreak2 [-\]: easiest way for w to lose this game is to have m12 captured on a larger scale
BGATeach [-\]: White should atari outside, at j11 and L9
BGATeach [-\]: If white M10 then L9
BGATeach [-\]: that was my refutation
Warfreak2 [-\]: silly me
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(;W[kk]
;B[lj]
;W[ii]
;B[jh]
;W[lk]C[BGATeach [-\]: yes, hes going all sensible
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;B[mj]C[BattleCrui [5k\]: w o9?
BattleCrui [5k\]: or j9
BGATeach [-\]: O9 gets N9, then K9
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;W[ij]C[BGATeach [-\]: k9 is plenty
BGATeach [-\]: black better try f18 or d18 and hope white screws up
fortytwo [?\]: sad to see F9 disapear
BGATeach [-\]: now nothing better than f12 using that aji
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;B[be]
;W[ce]
;B[bf]C[BGATeach [-\]: hes going for the normal yose route
BGATeach [-\]: I reckon black needs to get zero in the upper left quarter including whites corner
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;W[cc]C[BGATeach [-\]: so that is a 15 pont corner, black needs 15 in front of his wall
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;B[gb]
;W[fb]
;B[gc]
;W[gd]
;B[hd]
;W[he]
(;B[ge]
;W[fd]C[BGATeach [-\]: black missed a sharp chance
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;B[hc]C[BGATeach [-\]: O9 probably biggest now
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;W[gf]
;B[eg]
;W[fh]
;B[fg]C[BGATeach [-\]: or for black, S12 then P8, reopens the possibility of s2 attacking
BGATeach [-\]: Here white best F15 
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;W[gh]C[BGATeach [-\]: so whites centre is up to 20 points
whuang [5d\]: b8 is sente now? 
BGATeach [-\]: if black had played R13 in time then whites centre would be lucky to get zero, plus those 3 stones plus black s13 sente against the corner plus black territory 5 points on the right. a huge swing
BGAadmin [-\]: We're just having a 10 min break to get a drink etc.
BGATeach [-\]: but not as big as the 100 point swing at the end of game 2
BGAadmin [-\]: black has 45 min remaining and white has 20 min remaining
BGATeach [-\]: did people know about the R4-R1 combination to gain a liberty in that semeai?
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;B[fa]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[eb]
;B[rh]
;W[in]
;B[io]
;W[jn]
;B[jo]
;W[eo]
;B[fo]
;W[nk]
;B[mk]
;W[ol]
;B[ml]C[BGATeach [-\]: why did black just take gote???
Warfreak2 [-\]: seems like a plain mistake
BGATeach [-\]: he has to try T15, whites last chance to blunder
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;W[bo]
(;B[rr]
;W[aq]
;B[ar]
;W[ap]
;B[br]C[BGATeach [-\]: B2 is obviously smaller than T15. Charles has lost heart
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;W[qr]
;B[qs]
;W[rq]
;B[sq]
;W[rp]
;B[ie]
;W[hf]
;B[bl]
;W[no]
;B[nn]
;W[bm]
;B[ee]
;W[de]
;B[fe]
;W[rg]
;B[km]C[BGAadmin [-\]: I think Charles is trying to play quickly to put Junnan under time pressure - 10 min main time left though
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;W[ih]
;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[fm]
;W[fl]
;B[if]
;W[kn]
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;B[lm]
;W[do]
;B[dp]
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;B[kh]
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;B[pg]
;W[ph]
;B[pg]
;W[pf]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]
;B[sh]
;W[al]
;B[ak]
;W[am]
;B[bh]
;W[jf]
;B[je]
;W[rj]
;B[ed]
;W[ff]
;B[ef]
;W[ec]
;B[gg]
;W[hg]C[BGATeach [-\]: Charles has forgotten that the endgme is about doing things in sente. But I suspect he lost the will to win when P13 captured hisstones
]
;B[na]
;W[oa]
;B[ma]
;W[df]
;B[cg]
;W[ae]
;B[af]
;W[ad]
;B[ri]C[BGATeach [-\]: now look at black b12. simply minus 1 point in gote. should play b12 at c13
]
;W[om]
;B[nm]
;W[os]
;B[ps]
;W[oq]
;B[ph]
;W[sp]
;B[rs]
;W[sr]
;B[sj]
;W[sk]C[BGATeach [-\]: Well done Junnan. Played better moves when it came to the crunch.
]
;B[si]
;W[ok]
;B[ni]
;W[qb]
;B[me]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: lol
]
;W[fp]
;B[ho]
;W[md]
;B[op]
;W[np]
;B[me]
;W[ll]
;B[md]
;W[sq]
;B[oo]
;W[ss]
;B[]
;W[]C[BGATeach [-\]: I said that blunder was 20 points +, looks like 20 points was what he needed
BGATeach [-\]: so 19.5 points to white.
])
(;B[se]
;W[sd]
;B[rd]
;W[sf]
;B[sc]
;W[re]
;B[qc]
;W[pc]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qb]C[BGATeach [-\]: ??? some chances
])
(;B[fd]
;W[ge]
;B[fe]
;W[ff]
;B[ee]
;W[de]
;B[ef]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]
;W[id]
;B[ib]
;W[hg]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[db]
;W[dc]
;B[fg]
;W[gf]
;B[eg]
;W[fh]
;B[ea]
;W[cb]
;B[fa]))
(;W[lj]
;B[kk]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: he's going for it!
]
;W[mj]
;B[kh]
;W[li]
;B[lk]C[BGATeach [-\]: white dies
]))
(;W[ji]
;B[li]
;W[kh]
;B[fk]
;W[gj]
(;B[gk]
;W[hk]
;B[hj]
;W[ej]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[fm]C[BGATeach [-\]: yes, that does look ok
])
(;B[el]
;W[fm]
;B[gk]
;W[hk]
;B[hj]
;W[gh]
;B[ik]
;W[hl]
;B[ej]
;W[ei]
;B[eg]
;W[gi]
;B[ii]
;W[ih]
;B[jj]
;W[jh]
;B[hh]
;W[hg]
;B[gg]
;W[fh]C[BGATeach [-\]: ok, maybe nothing, just looks nasty
])))
(;B[pg]
;W[ph]
;B[qg]
(;W[oi])
(;W[qh]
;B[rg]
;W[oi]
;B[rh]
;W[oj]C[BGATeach [-\]: Both sides looking for ways to lose:
BGATeach [-\]: this happens to work for White. Heis really in the zone now
]))))
(;B[qe]
;W[re]
;B[rf]
;W[qg]
;B[rd]
;W[se]
;B[sf]
;W[pg]
;B[sd]
;W[re]
;B[se]
;W[og]
;B[re]
;W[rc]
;B[rh]
;W[rg]
;B[sg]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]
;W[nj]
;B[ni]
;W[mj]
;B[pi]
;W[mi]
;B[qc]
;W[pc]
;B[rb]
;W[qb]
;B[sb]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black looks ok
])
(;B[qe]
;W[pf]
;B[qd]
(;W[od]
;B[rf]
;W[rg]
;B[re]
;W[qh]
(;B[qc])
(;B[qb]C[BGATeach [-\]: Was this possible for White?
]))
(;W[qc]
;B[rf]
;W[rg]
;B[od]
;W[pc]
;B[of]
;W[ne]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]
;B[me]
;W[nf]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]
;B[re]
;W[sf]C[BGATeach [-\]: maybe white is ok. looked dangerous
])))
(;B[rd]
(;W[qd]
(;B[re]
;W[rf]
;B[qb]
;W[qc]
;B[rc]
;W[sb]
;B[rb]
;W[of]
;B[pg]
;W[pf]
;B[se]
;W[sc]
;B[pb]
;W[pa]
;B[qa]
;W[sa]
;B[od]
;W[pc]
;B[rh]
;W[rg]
;B[qh]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now the corner is bent 4 and white has either to live or to fight a ko
])
(;B[rf]C[kcharris12 [-\]: throw in at t19 earlier
]
;W[rg]
;B[re]
;W[pg]
;B[qb]C[kcharris12 [-\]: nvm
]))
(;W[qe]
;B[qb]
;W[re]C[BGATeach [-\]: still some trouble later
]))
(;B[be]
;W[cc]
;B[gb]
;W[fb]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[fk]
;W[el]
;B[gj]
;W[fi]
;B[gk]
;W[fm]
;B[gi]C[BGATeach [-\]: this looks like a close game. White will have to take some time out to make eyes on the left
]))
(;B[rl]
;W[om]
;B[nm]
;W[pj]
;B[qi]
;W[ph]C[BGATeach [-\]: Why not s8 for points and eyespace?
BGATeach [-\]: because he was afraid to be killed
])
(;B[qg]
;W[rg]
;B[rh]
;W[rf]
;B[pg]
;W[qk]
;B[pe]
;W[qe]
;B[od]
;W[qc]
;B[pf]C[BGATeach [-\]: maybe make a lot of points in the centre??
]))
(;W[qr]
;B[rg]
;W[rf]
;B[qg]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: i guess white would want to force s10 to connect up before r2
]))
(;B[fb]C[BGATeach [-\]: ok looks not yet possible.
BGATeach [-\]: how about the f9 aji?
]
;W[gb]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]
;B[eb]
;W[gd]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: 40! you are so generous 
]
;B[dc]
;W[bc]
;B[bb]
;W[ab]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: white could net the two stones
]
(;B[cb])
(;B[db]
;W[ca]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[fd]
;W[gc]
;B[ga]
;W[ib]
;B[ba]
;W[de]
;B[ef]
;W[ac]))
(;B[fk]
(;W[gk]
;B[gj]
;W[fi]C[MMXVII [3k\]: ooof
]
;B[gl]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: that one looks aggravating
]
;W[hk]
;B[fm]
;W[el]
;B[fl])
(;W[el]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: w sente to net the stone though
]
;B[gj]
;W[ej]
;B[fi]C[kcharris12 [-\]: w g10?
]
;W[ei]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: maybe white will try to play j6 to get f7 in sente
]
;B[gl]
;W[fm]
;B[fg]C[BGATeach [-\]: This looks quite useful
])))
(;B[fo]
;W[ip]
;B[iq]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[ho]
(;B[gs]
;W[gr])
(;B[gr]
;W[gn]C[BGATeach [-\]: ladder good for white, but this is very dangerous for white
])))
(;W[ok]
;B[qg]
;W[pf]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
(;B[qj]
;W[pi]
;B[pj]
;W[oj]
;B[oi]
;W[ph]
;B[ol]
;W[pl]
;B[pk]
;W[nj]
;B[qi]
;W[qh]
;B[rh]
;W[pg]
;B[rl]
;W[rk]
;B[rj]
;W[sl]
;B[qk]
;W[sk]
;B[sj]
;W[sm]
(;B[rg])
(;B[si]
;W[rg]
(;B[rr]
;W[rq])
(;B[rq]
;W[rp]
;B[rr])))
(;B[oh]C[BGATeach [-\]: white ok so black must back off and play more lightly
])))
(;B[pr]
;W[lr]
;B[ql]
;W[qm]
;B[qj]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now S2 reduces white to a minimal life on the right
Warfreak2 [-\]: b should atari o4 to avoid a theoretical cut there later?
]))
(;B[lo]
;W[or]
;B[pr]
;W[lr]C[BGATeach [-\]: maybe not, but not good for white
]
;B[mr]
;W[mq])
(;B[lr]
;W[lo]
(;B[om]C[BGATeach [-\]: This is the other way
BGATeach [-\]: This line cannot be bad for Black
]
;W[kn]
;B[jo]
;W[mn]
;B[pl]C[BGATeach [-\]: Not nice for white with all the aji around H8
])
(;B[ln]
;W[kn]
;B[jo]
;W[mn]
;B[lm]
;W[no]
;B[mm]
;W[nn]
;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[ml]
;W[pl]
;B[or]
;W[nr]
;B[qr]
;W[rr]
;B[rs]
;W[rq]
;B[os]
;W[ns]
;B[oq]
;W[ps]
;B[qs]
;W[sr]C[BGATeach [-\]: black trying too hard here
])))
(;W[lp]
;B[ko]
;W[lr]
;B[mp]
;W[mq]
;B[pr]
;W[iq]
;B[ir]
;W[hr]
;B[hq]
;W[is]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: white can push with m5
]
;B[ip]
;W[js]
;B[jo]
;W[gr]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: after black l5
]
;B[fq]))
(;B[om]
;W[pl]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: one space jump from atari!
]
;B[qg]
;W[pf]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[pi]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now White needs to find something at the bottom
l9xl9 [-\]: why p7? b could use the peep at r8 no?
Uberdude [3d?\]: hmm i can't bring myself to like black after the lower right corner result, but maybe thats just me biased agaisnt locally bad results and not looking at the big picture
BGATeach [-\]: I think White lost out by playing small scale at B16. He could Q14 or possibly P13
])
(;B[qi]
;W[jp]
;B[jq]
;W[kq]
;B[lp]
;W[iq]
;B[js])
(;B[fk]
;W[gk]C[Uberdude [3d?\]: e8 could be f8 there
SimbaRules [5d?\]: white could just e8 in response to f9
]
(;B[gj]
;W[fi]
;B[gl]
;W[hk]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: not h7 but something ^^
]
(;B[el]
;W[fm])
(;B[fl]
(;W[el]
;B[fm])
(;W[hl]
;B[fm]
;W[fn]
;B[gn]
;W[hm]
;B[en]
;W[fo]
;B[dm]
;W[dn])))
(;B[fi]
;W[ei]
;B[gj]
;W[el]
;B[gl]
;W[hk]
;B[fl]
;W[hl]
;B[ej]
;W[fm]
;B[fj]
;W[fh]
;B[hj]))
(;B[hm]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: h6 maybe is an overplay
SimbaRules [5d?\]: perhaps just h8
]
(;W[hn]
;B[gn]
;W[go]
;B[fn]
;W[fo]
;B[ho]
;W[in]
;B[en]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]
;W[do]
;B[dm]
;W[cn]
;B[gl]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: black seems happy here
])
(;W[gn]
;B[hn]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]
;W[ho]
;B[io]
;W[go]
;B[ip]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[qr]
;B[nr]
;W[om]C[XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: o2 giving p7
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: doesn't seem good
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: hard to say if the 2 points worth or not
BGATeach [-\]: I feel Black wanted P7 before starting this
XXNINJAXX [4d?\]: is this the game?
BGATeach [-\]: No, game still out for lunch
Uberdude [3d?\]: i think q6 should have been o4 attach
])))
(;B[bk]C[BGATeach [-\]: Black here aims at D8, and White doesnt have an obvious defending move
]))
(;B[dj]
;W[dg]
;B[bh]C[SimbaRules [5d?\]: yeah I like this more for black
BGATeach [-\]: This looks interesting for Black.
BGATeach [-\]: Whites ponnuki is not pointing in a good direction
]))
(;W[bi]
;B[cj]
;W[dg]
;B[eh]
;W[cg]
;B[eg]
;W[df]
;B[om]
;W[pl]
;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[im]C[BGATeach [-\]: White gets 12 extra points on the left, but now he has a weak group to look after, and his ambitions around K4 are gone
])
(;W[cj]
;B[bi]
;W[dj]
;B[bj]
;W[dk]
;B[cl]
;W[dl]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]
;B[dg]
;W[jp]C[BGATeach [-\]: Now White is thick. The 25 point difference on the left side seems quite small.
]))
(;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[gk]
;W[dg]
;B[hl]
;W[bk]
;B[bj]
;W[cl]
;B[cj]C[bleu [5k\]: w is mad
]
;W[do]
;B[bh]C[BGATeach [-\]: No point in White living like this
])
(;B[ed]
;W[ec]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[cd]
;B[ef]
;W[eh]
;B[gk]C[BGATeach [-\]: Tis tries to set up a splitting attack
]))
(;W[og]C[begin [-\]: yep
BGATeach [-\]: This move says to black ' you can live on the right or the top, but both is hard'
]))
(;B[fn]
;W[fm]C[begin [-\]: for w
Warfreak2 [-\]: but that's a resign
begin [-\]: and not yet to live
BGATeach [-\]: That line was a resign for White.
SimbaRules [5d?\]: that's not what was played?
]
;B[hn]
;W[kq]
;B[jq]
;W[jp]
;B[iq]
;W[lp]
;B[ko]
;W[lo]
;B[ln]
;W[kn]
;B[jo]
;W[mn]
;B[lm]
;W[no]
;B[mp]
;W[np]
;B[lq]
;W[nn]
;B[om]C[BGATeach [-\]: now can white live?
BGATeach [-\]: This looks like rubbinh for White.
begin [-\]: not sure
SimbaRules [5d?\]: yeah this looks crap for white
SimbaRules [5d?\]: that felt rushed
begin [-\]: very slow
Warfreak2 [-\]: w might be able to escape if he gives up q7!
])))
