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Simba: Game is being streamed live at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCzJQ78K-bc
Aldebaran_: thanks for the variations, that's a pretty cool move
Simba: You're welcome ^^ glad to show.
Simba: One day one of my students will play that and I will be proud.

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Enumaris: is this the actual game now?

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Simba: Yep!

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Simba: You must be up pretty late, it's the middle of the night in the US.
Enumaris: yep
Enumaris: is black planning on mini/micro chinese?
Simba: Yep, quite possibly.
Simba: White could back off here to F17.
Simba: Or play a pincer.
Simba: Tenuki to something like D5 is probably quite rare since the double approach is nice for black.
Enumaris: do you know the players personally?
Simba: Yeah, but not very well.
Enumaris: white can do what alphago just did, c5
Enumaris: worked against the group of 5 chinese pros
Enumaris: mmhm
Simba: Charles mostly plays online, he only started playing RL tournaments a year or two ago, but I chat with him quite a bit on game nights since we both play for the British team.
Simba: Andrew doesn't play for our team but I've met him IRL a few times.
Enumaris: I see
Simba: When I was a new player in 2011 he just won the qualification tournament for the title and came to our go club.

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Simba: White pincered here.
Enumaris: this one pretty common too 

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Enumaris: right
Enumaris: oh
Enumaris: hmm
bynum: oh nice

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Enumaris: hello bynum
Simba: bynum my man :)
bynum: hi
Simba: So here the C14 stone is quite light - even if white plays C15, it's still alive.
Enumaris: hmmm
Simba: So black might tenuki again.
Simba: D13 hane is also fine.
Simba: I'd play around K17 here.
Simba: So that white's wall isn't very useful.

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Enumaris: ahaha
Enumaris: double two space high pincer
bynum: two of the same in a row
bynum: lol
Simba: Yeah, this is the move Andrew is most known for.
Simba: I was surprised he didn't back off though here.
Simba: Could make a nice area at the top.
Simba: Black might change direction now, say O17.

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Simba: Yep.

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bynum: next up Q14
Enumaris: white likes this shape

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Enumaris: I thought this joseki was too good for white

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Enumaris: hmm
Simba: It's fine afaik, better than the other attachment.

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bynum: I like white at this point
Enumaris: I remember kz told me r17 by itself
Enumaris: Q13 for P14 is not good if the pincer is high...I think...but maybe I just remembered wrong lol
Simba: I like black but it's still even no doubt.
Simba: C14 has a lot of aji.
Simba: And yeah, unsure, Enumaris :)
Simba: As far as I know they still play this.
bynum: Simba always like territory

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Simba: White plays honte here.
Simba: I kind of expected white to take sente.
bynum: C17
Simba: Andrew plays a fast game.
Enumaris: josekipedia says Son Geungi said this one is good for white
Enumaris: too thick

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Simba: haha
Simba: I'm actually a moyo/influence player.
bynum: oh really?
Simba: Yep lol.
Simba: I opened 6-5 7-5 in a serious match recently.
bynum: LOL

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Enumaris: hmmm

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Enumaris: what about just 3-3 the top left

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Simba: Could do that, but then...
Simba: I'm not sure I like this so much for black.
Enumaris: yes, stay away from white thickness
Simba: It was probably unwise to stay up the watch that match and then commentate on this.
Simba: But hey, needs must. I wasn't going to miss AlphaGo for the world :)
Enumaris: lol
Simba: Thankfully this will be miles easier to commentate on than AlphaGo's moves. Some of the self-play games are insane.
bynum: haha
Enumaris: just wait for andrew to d4
Simba: I played a very similar shape to that in a game not too long ago, Enumaris.
Enumaris: Nie Weiping critisized kejie for that one haha 
bynum: Nie always thinks that others' openings are bad
Simba: https://online-go.com/game/7433598 The top-left corner here, Enumaris.
Simba: First few moves of the game.
Simba: I felt I got a good result up there.
Enumaris: haha yeah, Nie always be like "the game is over now"
Enumaris: "forget it, he lost"
Simba: lol
Simba: We all know one go player like that tbh.
bynum: even towards master he's like "oh i was leading in the opnening"
Simba: haha

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Simba: Yep, he just played here.
Simba: Nearly 10 minutes for that move, must have read a lot of sequences.
Enumaris: probably read out corner aji?
Simba: It's 1h45mins maintime per player, plus a small amount of byo-yomi.
Enumaris: like does this still leave corner aji...

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Simba: Like this, C14 gets damaged and the C17 aji is mostly gone.
Simba: It does but very little.
Simba: They played this.
Simba: Now expecting a black extension.
Simba: If Charles saw AlphaGo maybe he'll play J16 too.
Enumaris: ke lost with that tho
Simba: I always feel inspired to try new cool moves when I see them.
Simba: Yeah but Ke Jie is better than us.
Simba: If it's good enough for him, then it's good enough for us haha.

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bynum: by 4-6 stones..
Simba: Nope, Charles is better.
Ranchanii: j16 
Enumaris: Ke is an unmeasurable number of stones stronger than me
Simba: Maybe N15 first.
Simba: Make himself strong preparing H17.
Simba: J16 is a bit easy on black.
Enumaris: like.......uh....16-18 stones? I can't math
bynum: lol...
Simba: If he just surrounds black's top right, then black has to worry about the invasion.
Simba: But it's a bit small/gote to defend it.
Enumaris: k17 feels like too far
Simba: Hard to be sure.
bynum: extend?
Enumaris: hmmm
Enumaris: yeah the sealing move that i wanna play doesn't seem to work
Enumaris: white not strong enough D:
Simba: Which one? N14?
Enumaris: yeah
Enumaris: lol
Simba: That was my first instinct too.
Simba: It works but it's maybe a bit soft, like...
Enumaris: l16 exchange hurts me, cus I still wanna h17 later 
Enumaris: how about
Enumaris: l15
Enumaris: maybe h18 still works there..
Enumaris: welp, dunno, only so many possible moves here
Simba: There's no need for white to be jealous of the territory.
Simba: White just needs to finish in sente.
Simba: Make black defend.
Simba: The rest of the board is much larger.
Enumaris: hmm
Simba: 15 mins on this move, wow.
Enumaris: hard to pick a point I think

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Enumaris: depends on how much white can do with k15
Simba: He just came in straight away.
Simba: Probe move.
Simba: I like this.
bynum: first thought would be H16 in most cases
Simba: Maybe K15?
Enumaris: so u can get k16?
Enumaris: k15 is like
Enumaris: aji everywhere for both sides 
Enumaris: haha

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Simba: He played this, wow.

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Simba: I don't understand black's plan here.
bynum: 0_0
Enumaris: j16....
Simba: Maybe he is trying to sacrifice to attach M17.
Simba: attack*
Enumaris: the next move will show
Enumaris: what he wants
Simba: He's reading now which is kinda weird.
Simba: Surely this was the most obvious path for white to take.
Simba: To only read it now is a bit odd.
bynum: hahaha
Simba: haha

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bynum: enumaris i still remember the move you gave when i played ovo
Simba: Is ovo really strong or something? I'm playing him currently in a correspondence game.
Simba: I've heard a couple of people say he's super good.
bynum: 1. ovo is a girl

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bynum: 2. she's ok
Simba: haha
Simba: gotcha

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Simba: Ah, I see.
Simba: brb
Enumaris: wait...black d13'd?

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Simba: Yep, makes sense.
Simba: Giving up F16 probably.
bynum: yikes
Enumaris: is he willing to give up the 5 stones in the center
Simba: J16/K17 are not going to die.
Simba: F16/F17, yeah.
Simba: I like this for black.
bynum: yeah
Simba: White has to attack large-scale now.
Simba: Or it's too overconcentrated.
bynum: now white has to attack them
Simba: D13 looks okay but maybe white could have just taken the corner.

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Simba: He played this one first.
Simba: Same sort of idea potentially.
Simba: Yep.
Enumaris: hmm
Enumaris: black's 5 stones feels heavy on the outside when white gets sente here tho
Simba: Well white's M16 is still very weak.
Simba: So we'll have to see how strongly he can attack with that in mind.
Enumaris: I'm assuming white gets sente here
Enumaris: so he can attack first
Enumaris: presumably starting by attacking from the m16 direction

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bynum: is this the game?
Simba: This is better for white than the variation Enu showed.
Simba: Yeah.
Simba: He didn't C16

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bynum: o...
Simba: lol

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Simba: This looks good for white now.
Enumaris: oh he did kill them in sente 
Simba: Tiny gote life.
Simba: Nah.
Simba: B13 isn't important now.
Simba: Since black lived.
Simba: So white has sente.
Enumaris: yeah
Enumaris: c13 is dead, and white has sente

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Enumaris: wow he just l13 without peeping first

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Enumaris: u can't pull it out
Enumaris: it's dead

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Enumaris: isn't it

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bynum: game?
Simba: yep
Simba: Poor B.
bynum: r u sure? 
Simba: Yep.
bynum: 0_0
Simba: Pulling C12 out is just too small.
Simba: It's a ko fight, so he can.
bynum: this is not going good for b..
Simba: No good ko threats.
bynum: yah
Enumaris: hmmm
bynum: C12 doesn't work as a threat
Enumaris: p18?
Simba: Black needs a threat, not white.
Enumaris: oh
Simba: :)
Enumaris: right lol
Enumaris: but why didn't white peep first?
bynum: I guess the only threat for black now...
bynum: Is to say "Give the ko to me or I'll smash the board"
Simba: lol
Simba: The British go association would be annoyed at that.
bynum: haha
Simba: Totally worth it for the vines though.
Simba: Enumaris, it's better not to peep.
Simba: If you peep, you can't cut.
Simba: And you give black a stronger shape.
Simba: So it's best not to until you absolutely have to.
Enumaris: hmm

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Enumaris: alright
Enumaris: but I mean after black lost, the exchange k18 for l14 wasn't so horrible
Enumaris: it's like 1 point worse
Enumaris: than not doing it

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Simba: wow, he replied
bynum: wut...
Enumaris: white responded to r8...
bynum: ??????

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Enumaris: there are an infinite number of ko threats there if he gonna respond to that 
Simba: lol

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Enumaris: it's like using a joseki as a ko threat
Simba: Surely he isn't going to reply to this.
Simba: Black doesn't even have time to follow up his ko threat.
Simba: Needs to reply in the middle.
Enumaris: the ko is quite big cus it's like...black already took the corner, if white can't attack black he hasn't gained much...
Simba: It's more that if L17 dies, black's safe.
Simba: White can't lose this ko.
bynum: there is no reason for white to respond to this...
Enumaris: yes black is 100% safe if white loses the ko
Simba: Indeed.
Enumaris: and white gains a tetris shape above it :D
Enumaris: if only go were tetris...white could accept this result
Simba: Best shapes.
Simba: I'm going to a mind sports convention in August which actually has competitive Tetris lol.
Simba: www.msoworld.com
Enumaris: haha
bynum: and then we will see an english lion called simba
bynum: who plays go
Simba: I'm actually a mental calculation specialist, go's my third best thing there.
Enumaris: like mental math?
Simba: yep
Simba: The world championship is held here each year.
Enumaris: what if someone called mufasa goes tho....gonna be hard for u to win vs him
Simba: It was only funny to hear "your dad's dead" the first 10,000 times. ;)
bynum: hahaha
Simba: Overused meme much.
Enumaris: Comes with the territory bro
Simba: But no, my main competitor is a German guy lol.
Enumaris: I really don't understand why white responded to r8
Enumaris: makes no sense to me
Simba: Well he doesn't want black to Q6 and cover.
Simba: But it's too small anyway,.
Simba: He still hasn't filled the ko.
bynum: :O 
bynum: what is he thinking
Simba: Really don't know.
Simba: If he fills in the ko, black can't play the lower right anyway.
Simba: Losing the entire centre would be just crazy huge.

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bynum: yah exactly
Simba: yay
Simba: He did it.

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bynum: see, he's still sensible
Simba: haha
Simba: He better be ,it's game 1.
Simba: 7 games in total.
Enumaris: so the question now
Enumaris: is
Enumaris: did p6 help white
Enumaris: or just make him heavier
Simba: P6 looks fine.
Simba: But black made the ko bigger with K18.
Enumaris: but now there's no 3-3
Simba: Right, but that's from R5, not from R8.
Enumaris: hmm
bynum: black got solid corners but still like white
Simba: Agree.
bynum: Hey, I thought you would say that you like territory.
bynum: Lol
Enumaris: k18 loses 1 extra point right...it's not that big is it
Simba: It threatens to kill L17.
Simba: If black wins the ko.
Simba: But black was never going to win the ko.
Simba: So it didn't really make sense.
Simba: But he could have just jumped away in the centre, or reduced.
Simba: i.e. made the ko a lot smaller.
Simba: I figure white will come into the lower side now.
Simba: H3, J4 look reasonable.

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Simba: Here played.
Enumaris: hmmmm

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Enumaris: seems like if black is dead above, white already ahead in territory
bynum: P3
Enumaris: unless p6 dies
Simba: Yep, agree P3.
Enumaris: black likes to kosumi
Enumaris: look at all those kosumis
bynum: hahaha
Enumaris: n16, j16, l5....
Enumaris: top left bottom right
Enumaris: all diagonals
Simba: #shusaku
bynum: Charles read too much shusaku games
Simba: It'd be fun to get to play these two myself sometime, they have such different styles.
bynum: you should join the tournament
Simba: One of the other people in this tournament has agreed to play me sometime in the coming weeks, excited for it.
Simba: Nah, not eligible, and it's too far away for me anyway.
Enumaris: welp I gotta sleep lol
bynum: 88 goodnight
Simba: haha, sure, thanks for keeping us company. :)
Enumaris: have fun with the rest of the game~ 
Enumaris: laters
bynum: still didn't make his move?
Simba: Correct.
Simba: And shall do, also will have fun cooking soon.
Simba: Semi-afk, gotta set my rice going.
bynum: oh wow english eat rice?

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Simba: We eat some, yeah.
bynum: ooo
Simba: I'm making egg fried rice with some chicken.
bynum: You are so talented
Simba: hahaha
Simba: I am 99 cooking in MMORPGs.
bynum: Go, tetris, mental math, cooking
Simba: haha
Simba: Sadly none of my talents get you a job rofl.
bynum: and also snooker
Simba: I do pro sport for my 'job' since no one will hire you based on just general intelligence.
bynum: You also play snooker
bynum: that's 4 talents
Simba: Yeah, that's what I mean, snooker is my sport :)
bynum: OMG
Simba: I have a tournament tomorrow, exciting.
bynum: what???
bynum: Signature plz
Simba: haha
Simba: If you come to England I will sign your cue ;)
bynum: O3
Simba: White just kind of became heavy here.
bynum: yah
Simba: I don't like it.
Simba: Maybe I should apply to DeepMind lol.
Simba: Get to spend romantic nights with AlphaGo.
bynum: "Romantic"
bynum: :) :) :) :)
bynum: And then one month later you can give me 3 stones
Simba: hahaha

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Simba: Nah, you are Chinese, you were born as a 7dan.
bynum: ?? I am 5 dan lol
Simba: It's like Koreans, they're born as diamond-level League and Starcraft players.
Simba: Like genetic advantage lol.

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bynum: aha
bynum: lol
Simba: Do you play at all?
bynum: play what
Simba: League.
Simba: Or anything like that.
bynum: nope
Simba: ahhh
Simba: Also what.
bynum: GO IS MY GAME XD
Simba: This looks so bad for white :(
Simba: All of the aji is being keshed.
Simba: And he just has a few floating stones.
bynum: White played some moves that don't fit with his skill

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Simba: Yeah this is really odd.
bynum: hard to explain
Simba: brb giving fresh water to the rice

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Simba: Like, this now for black, O3.
Simba: And white connects???
Simba: What is this shape lol.
Simba: Wow, they did play this.
Simba: I bet white is hating himself right now.
bynum: I bet Andrew's face is grey now ^_^

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Simba: Black has 35 mins left, white about 40 mins.
bynum: S7
Simba: You'd expect so, yep.
Simba: Also, lol, rice is like the most OP food.
Simba: I swear I put like 5 grains in the cooker.
Simba: And now it's a mountain of rice.
bynum: lol...
Simba: Every time I cook rice I'm like...
Simba: "damn that's not much"
Simba: But then omg, infinite rice.
Simba: It's awesome lol.
bynum: nice to hear an English man who likes rice
Simba: They sell 10kg bags of rice at my local store <3
Simba: Of course, I lived with Thai people when I first started training full-time for snooker.
Simba: And I love Indian and Chinese food.
bynum: yay

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Simba: It'd be really awkward if white died here...
bynum: you play professional snooker, do you have time to play games like go with training?
Simba: Yeah, definitely.
bynum: oh wow
Simba: I use my time efficiently, rarely am doing nothing.
bynum: I thought you would be like kobe
Simba: Even like on the way to the training place I'm practising.
bynum: "Wake up 4am and practice all day"
Simba: Well yeah, I am similar, but I do more than one activity.
Simba: Like on the bus to snooker, I'll do tsumego.
Simba: Or mental calc training.
bynum: You are OP...
Simba: lol
Simba: We all have 24 hours in a day.
Simba: Just have to not do nothing.
bynum: Compared to you I am a dumb nerd lol
Simba: haha, nah, I'm sure that's not true.
bynum: And I don't know how you became 5d level in such a short time
Simba: Well I got to 1d in a year.
Simba: Did 10,000 tsumego.
Simba: I like the puzzles/tsumego more than the actual game.
Simba: Huge fan of puzzles.
Simba: Do lots of Sudoku/Kenken and others.
bynum: #Genius
Simba: Gotta keep the mind active.
Simba: lol
Simba: It's all subjective.
bynum: At prime I played 15 games a day
Simba: Blitz games?
bynum: And it took me 3 years to get to 1d
bynum: semi-blitz

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Chilltime: this works?
Simba: I find with the stuff I train at that the quality of the study/practice is much more important than the quantity.
Simba: White still has S7.
bugcat: huh, I didn't know the BGC was going
Simba: BGC?
bugcat: "British Go Championship"?
Simba: brb rice again
Simba: Ah, yeah :)
Simba: Are you also British?
bugcat: Yeah, I live pretty close to London so I could stop down there haha
bugcat: probably not much ticket demand

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bynum: this is game?

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Simba: yep
bynum: cool
bugcat: Do you know the tournament format?
Simba: And lol, you can just stay here and watch with us and a cup of tea bugcat :)
Simba: Yeah, this is a 7-round tournament.
bugcat: haha, thanks for the invitation :3
Simba: With 8 of the top players in the UK.
Simba: The top two will play a 3-game or 5-game title match.
bugcat: but I mean, is it a single-elimination knockout?
Simba: No, 7-round as I said.
Simba: It's round-robin.
bugcat: ahhhh, right right
Simba: Cute picture btw :3

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bugcat: thanks, I used to have a slightly cuter one
bugcat: EricJHan has the cuter bugcat picture these days
Simba: haha
Simba: This looks like panic time for white.
Simba: Maybe he can try some magic with K3.
bynum: yeah K3 is the point

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Simba: White has about 25 mins, black 30 mins left.
bynum: simba your rice ready yet??
Simba: It's boiled, cooling and waiting to go into the pan to be fried.
Simba: It cooks better if you boil it then let it cool before frying.
Simba: Chicken and soy sauce is ready :)
bynum: good
Simba: And chillies.
bynum: perhaps the most awkward thing-
bynum: coming to watch a go match and two 5ds are talking about rice.
bynum: lol
Simba: tbh maybe that's how you get to 5-dan.
Simba: Either be Chinese, or pretend to be by eating enough rice.
bynum: hahaha
kaijanai: is this live?
Simba: Yep.
kaijanai: cool
Simba: It's 1h45min per side main time.
Simba: So it's quite a long game.
Simba: White has been thinking about this move for quite some time now.
Simba: S7 is still available.
Simba: Maybe he needs to throw away the lower group.
Simba: But urgh, what a disaster if so.

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Simba: Wow, here.
Simba: I wouldn't think of this one.
bynum: oh here
Simba: Feels like M11 now is natural.
bynum: yah

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Mr.Voo: no way white can win this semeai
bynum: M11
Mr.Voo: i prefer O11. it aims at connecting two week black groups and finishing off the semeai
bynum: connect?
Mr.Voo: if white doesn't respond

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Simba: What a mess.
Mr.Voo: i was gonna suggest L3 after O11 
Mr.Voo: but maybe this is better
Mr.Voo: in any case, i don't understand what whtie is thinking about. way beyond my understanding 
Mr.Voo: if i were white, i would give up and play elsewhere
bynum: ...
Simba: I guess white could just M11 now and say "well I got the centre".
Simba: But like...
Simba: This is a disaster.
bynum: what do you mean give up??
bynum: 12 stones lol
Mr.Voo: i mean this group is dead. so why white keeps playing there
bynum: Well...
Simba: Well he can play forcing moves on the outside now at least.
Simba: So he'll try to sacrifice it wisely.
Simba: But there's not much to be done.
Simba: This whole sequence for white was silly.
Mr.Voo: exactly. that's my point. give up on the group and at least get some profit 
bynum: Even if he sacrifices it's way too big
Mr.Voo: but he's playing "from" the group 
Simba: P3 was much better.
Simba: Yep, agree Voo.
bynum: yah
bynum: At the start
Simba: yep
Simba: Yeah, surprised.
Simba: White is very good at fighting.
Mr.Voo: white should play M11 and then continue with something like J9
Simba: Yeah, but this is too big even if he does that.
HikaruTim: Is anyone still on?  Or all gone to eat rice?
HikaruTim: Oh well.  I was wondering about R7 at move 98 for White, if that could have saved him?

]
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Mr.Voo: at least it's a graceful loss 
Simba: He'd much rather fight until there is absolutely no way.
Simba: If white extends to M2, at least there's a semeai.
Simba: The game will end here though decisively.
Simba: Impossible to compromise from this position.
Simba: These two played in the qualification round and white won handily.
Simba: And was winning cleanly here too before the lower side.
Mr.Voo: maybe short on time
bynum: yeah idk what happened to him
Simba: They get more time actually.
Simba: 1h45 each instead of 1h30.
Simba: White has only about 10 minutes left.
Simba: Black has about 50.
Simba: This could turn out to be a massive game.
Simba: Only two compete for the title at the end.
Simba: These two are two of the most likely.
Mr.Voo: this morning ke jie was crying. it was a sad scene...
bynum: wut
bynum: kj cried?
Simba: There are probably four people in with a decent shot.
Mr.Voo: during the match 

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bynum: oh wow 
Mr.Voo: his sequence ended up in disaster. he shed a few tears 
Simba: Mmm, nah, it's not sad. It shows how much winning and the game means to him.
Mr.Voo: yeah
Simba: It's good to see so much passion in a professional in any field.
bynum: yah he cares alot about the game 

];B[nh];W[oh];B[ng];W[nf]
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Simba: Looking more and more hopeless for W.

];W[li]C[

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Mr.Voo: there is no good way to answer L10
Mr.Voo: ah 
Mr.Voo: i like R11
Simba: R11 for black loses immediately to R12.
Simba: So maybe black R12.
bynum: doesn't work
Simba: :)
bynum: lol no problem
Simba: Where you from, Voo?
Mr.Voo: switzerland
bynum: bonjour
Simba: Neat.
Mr.Voo: ;) 
Mr.Voo: you guys must be british? 
Simba: I am, Bynum is Chinese.
Mr.Voo: cool

]
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Simba: Yeah I was just thinking that.

];W[oi]
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Simba: He jumped here.
bynum: does this work?
bynum: w R11
bynum: oh it does
Simba: Yeah, looks like white is in trouble.
Simba: W has no time to come back to M2.
Simba: So that should be gg
Simba: No resignation yet, but he's about to go into byo-yomi.
Simba: That might trigger it.
Simba: Nope, he's getting the stones out.
Simba: Hopefully white will do well in the other 6 rounds - he's an exciting player to watch and it'd be nice for him to get through.
Simba: This one seems to be over though.

];W[qi];B[qh]
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bynum: R9?
Simba: Well he knows S11 doesn't work.
bynum: S8
Simba: Or Just M2, no need to get baited.
Simba: Simple and clean way.

];B[lr]
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Simba: Yep.

]
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bynum: yay

];B[ls];W[ks];B[po];W[ms];B[lr]
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Simba: I'm not sure why black didn't just L2 connect.
Simba: The N3 cut seemed unnecessary.
bynum: ya confusing
bynum: K2

];B[jr];W[pq];B[mp];W[lr]
;B[pr]C[

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bynum: b wins

]
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bynum: I don't see any moves w can make
bynum: lol...

];B[jm]C[

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marshmn: it's over...
Simba: b+resign
Simba: White will have nightmares about that lower group for weeks.
bynum: white was leading but then this bottom right corner...
bynum: sigh
Simba: Yeah.
Simba: Though even the ko was a little odd.
Simba: At L16.
bynum: IT ACTUALLY DIED
Simba: Exciting game.
Simba: lol
Simba: Maybe it was a valid ko threat. ;)
Simba: hurr
bynum: not valid at all lol...
Simba: I know, I know, British humour lol.
bynum: how in the world can white make this dead...
Simba: Lots of sarcasm. :P
Simba: Exciting game either way though.
Simba: The next round begins in 79 minutes.
Simba: 2:30pm UK time, 9:30am Eastern.
Simba: Yep!
Mr.Voo: nice
Mr.Voo: i'll be back ;) 
Simba: I'll be making another game for it.
Simba: Cool.
Mr.Voo: see you
Simba: See you in an hour and a bit.

])
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bynum: O2
Simba: Yeah.
Mr.Voo: will it be streamed here? 

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bynum: trying to go for style?

]))
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Simba: 3 to 4.
bynum: duang~ R.I.P
MahouBootCamp: R.I.P

]))
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bynum: howbout this. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 L13 M15 L15 L16 M14 N15 L17 K15 K16 R8 P6 L16 L14 K18 K16 R5 L16 S6 M4 L5 M5 M6 O5 N6 P4 P3 P5 O3 N5 O8 S5 S4 O7 P8 N7 M8 N8 N9 M9 M7 O9 N10 O10 N11 M10 P7 O6 L3 M3 L4 S7 Q6 O11 N12 N13 O12 P12 O13 O14 P13 M11 Q12 P11 R12 

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bynum: 6. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 L13 M15 L15 L16 M14 N15 L17 K15 K16 R8 P6 L16 L14 K18 K16 R5 L16 S6 M4 L5 M5 M6 O5 N6 P4 P3 P5 O3 N5 O8 S5 S4 O7 P8 N7 M8 N8 N9 M9 M7 O9 N10 O10 N11 M10 P7 O6 L3 M3 L4 S7 Q6 O11 N12 N13 O12 P12 O13 O14 P13 M11 R11 R12 Q12 P11 R13 S12 
Mr.Voo: damn. my reading...

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Simba: Sorry Tim, are you still there?
HikaruTim: Yes

]
(;B[pm]C[

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Simba: mmm, this isn't good either.

];W[po]
(;B[qp];W[pk];B[pl];W[rl];B[qk];W[qj]
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HikaruTim: I wonder if I could ask a quick question about a move earlier in the game?

])
(;B[so]
;W[rl]C[

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Simba: Not quite, since white can do this.

];B[qk];W[ok];B[pl];W[rk];B[qj];W[lr]
;B[rj]C[

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Simba: Maybe a big trade like this.
Simba: And white can squeeze from the outside.
HikaruTim: better than losing the whole corner  like happened in the game!
Simba: Unsure, I'd need to study the position for quite some time, it's very complicated.
Simba: Yeah of course :)
Simba: But easy to say that with an analysis board.
Simba: I'm going to do a couple of things IRL now, next game starts in an hour.
Simba: You're welcome to join us then ^^ .
HikaruTim: Thanks, that move was bothering me and I was wondering what would have hsppened
Simba: No problem :) good spot. Cya in an hour.
HikaruTim: Enjoy your rice!

]))
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HikaruTim: Actually Q7 to cut right away
Simba: So maybe Q5 was wrong.

]
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;B[pm]C[

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Simba: This sort of idea, so white can get M2 in?

])
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(;W[pr]C[

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Simba: Like so?

];B[lr]C[

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Simba: It's not quite quick enough like this.
Simba: He needs to get M2 in.

])
(;W[lr]
(;B[pr]C[

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Simba: This is another idea though, yeah.
Simba: It's complicated, I can't give you a 100% answer.
Simba: Lots of variations.
Simba: The problem here though is that white lost the Q9 peep.
Simba: So after black turns at O11, white's shape is awkward.

])
(;B[ni]C[

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Simba: If this isn't working for black, then it's good for white.

];W[oj];B[oi];W[pj]
(;B[ph]C[

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Simba: This sort of thing, say.
Simba: I think white is in trouble.

]
(;W[pr]C[

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HikaruTim: With the board as it stands now, how is white?

];B[rl]
;W[li]C[

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HikaruTim: Problem for black you mean?
HikaruTim: For me, it looks like white M2 is ok
HikaruTim: But the two groups at R6 and P10 are dead

])
(;W[rl]C[

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Simba: Hmm, no, actually this is problematic.
Simba: S5 still being on the board is huge.

]))
(;B[rl]C[

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Simba: Yep.
Simba: This might well be good enough for white.
Simba: He needs to get M2 in at some point.

])))))))
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bynum: he will

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Simba: Maybe black can just cap like this.
Simba: White can run, but the right side will get trashed.
Simba: And then perhaps even getting a chance to play R13.
Simba: Sadness.
bynum: P8 seems fine

]))
(;W[nq]C[

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bynum: This also. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 L13 M15 L15 L16 M14 N15 L17 K15 K16 R8 P6 L16 L14 K18 K16 R5 L16 S6 M4 L5 M5 M6 O5 N6 O3 
bynum: White really played too heavy

]))
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;B[op]C[

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bynum: hi 5.

];W[nq];B[mq];W[mr];B[lq];W[lr];B[kq]
;W[qr]C[

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Simba: This sort of thing perhaps.

]))
(;B[ih]C[

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Simba: So here's the thing.
Simba: Black can play something like this.
Simba: He isn't going to win the ko anyway at this point of the game.
Simba: So just leave it there.
Simba: K18 is not valuable until black can win the ko.
Simba: So for now, just this.

]))
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(;B[pn]
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Enumaris: can't white still 3-3...?. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 L13 M15 L15 L16 M14 N15 L17 K15 K16 R8 L16 Q6 R3 

])
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;B[rn]C[

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Enumaris: This is...changing order of moves.... From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 L13 M15 L15 L16 M14 N15 L17 K15 K16 R8 L16 K18 L14 R5 P6 S6 
Enumaris: I guess it's still not too bad of an exchange for white

])))
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Enumaris: This is my feeling for attacking . From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 B16 B13 D18 E18 B18 K15 J15 L13 

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(;B[cd]C[

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bynum: C16 first for sure

];W[de]C[

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bynum: B13, B16

];B[bd];W[bg];B[ch];W[bh];B[ci];W[cj];B[jf];W[db];B[cb]
;W[ae]C[

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Enumaris: oh white can actually kill these stones... in sente...?. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B14 C16 D15 B16 B13 C12 B12 C11 C10 K14 D18 C18 A15 

]))
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;W[bi]C[

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Simba: This one also.
Simba: Those 4 stones are not important.
bynum: yeah black might not respond to that......
Simba: Black's corner is already aive.
Simba: So he can defend the centre.

];B[ag]C[

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Enumaris: then don't c13

];W[dh]C[

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Simba: This move is gote which is kind of a problem.
Enumaris: just leave it for later

];B[af];W[je];B[ie]
;W[kg]C[

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Enumaris: possible?. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 C17 F18 C13 D13 B15 B16 C16 D15 B17 B14 A16 B13 C12 C11 B12 B11 A13 D12 A14 K15 J15 L13 

]))
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;W[fm]C[

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Simba: Like this sort of thing.
Simba: Not sure it was important to connect to D11.

]))
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;B[ef]C[

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bynum: 5. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 J16 H16 H15 H18 E18 D18 E16 D17 E14 
Enumaris: bynum's answer is black wants everything?
Enumaris: I'm so bad with contact fighting -.-
Enumaris: haha
Enumaris: I think she studied go when she was even younger, and then she's getting back to her former form or something
Enumaris: so she improved from like 5k to 3d in like a month or something...
Enumaris: lol
Enumaris: ok

]))
(;B[je]C[

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bynum: this?. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 K15 
Simba: Black could K15 and trade.
Simba: Yeah.
bynum: i see
Simba: White can't have everything.
Simba: And there still a little C17 aji.
Simba: haha
bynum: lol
Simba: Well my style is flexible, I don't like committing to things very strongly.
Simba: So I'd rather just let them choose what they want.
Simba: Yep, indeed.
Simba: I like those kinds of positions, flowing.
Simba: Lots of potential to trade and such.

];W[he]C[

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Enumaris: it feels liek no way for either player to kill the iron pillars without aji. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 K15 H15 

]
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;W[ff]C[

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Enumaris: aji all over. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 H17 K15 H15 M14 F14 

])
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Simba: This one is the shape.
Simba: Not M14.
Simba: That gap is too big.
Enumaris: I think the trade is good for black...

]))
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;W[me]C[

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Simba: I like this for white.
Simba: So I think black H16 is a mistake.
Simba: White's central influence here is so nice.
Simba: And black got only a few points.

]))
(;W[le]C[

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Simba: Just here?
bynum: yah
Simba: Not a fan.

];B[nf]C[

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Simba: This kinda looks annoying.
Simba: Maybe not right now, but as aji.
Simba: I prefer the hane.
Simba: Less of this kind of nonsense.

])
(;W[me]
;B[ne]C[

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bynum: 2. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 N15 O15 
Simba: Yeah, but then like this...

]
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;W[pb]C[

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Simba: Looks good for white.
Enumaris: hmmm
bynum: true

])
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Ranchanii: 4. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 N15 O15 K15 

];B[mf];W[le]
;B[nf]C[

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Simba: White's shape got destroyed like this.
Simba: I don't like it.
Enumaris: this is the game?
Simba: No.
Enumaris: oh
Simba: Ranchanii's variation.

]))
(;W[mf]
(;B[je]
;W[kf]C[

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Simba: Here, white had to defend.
Enumaris: hmmm
Simba: So black kind of fixed H17 in sente.
Enumaris: can't black just directly hane

])
(;B[le]C[

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Simba: Like this?
Enumaris: yeah
Simba: hmm

];W[jd]C[

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bynum: 3. From move 0: Q4 D16 D3 Q16 C14 D11 C6 D14 R14 Q11 O17 Q14 Q13 P14 R17 R15 Q17 S14 K4 R6 O4 M17 N16 M16 F17 E17 F16 C15 K17 N14 M15 K16 

];B[id]
;W[ke]C[

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Simba: White can come out.
Simba: And black doesn't get as much at the top.
Simba: Better to just play simply.
Enumaris: yeah but I don't wanna make black stronger on the left haha

]))
(;W[ke]C[

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Simba: Here?
Enumaris: yeah
Enumaris: next move I'm gonna seal in black
bynum: oooo
Enumaris: or
Simba: This just looks a bit weird.
Enumaris: then isn't black sealed when I n14 now

]
(;B[je]C[

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Enumaris: go do something on the left
Simba: Like this.

])
(;B[ie]C[

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Simba: Or here maybe.
Simba: Yeah, but N14 sealed him in.
Simba: Didn't need to do this first.
Enumaris: hmm
Simba: H17 isn't available here either.

])))
(;B[id]C[

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bynum: yah
Simba: Black can't really attach M16 too because white can surround/jump away easily.
Simba: attack*
Simba: Ke Jie played this shape last night against AlphaGo.
Simba: I need to experiment with it, nice idea.
Simba: K17 would be an overplay.
Enumaris: indeed he did 

]))
(;B[cc];W[dc];B[cd];W[ce];B[be];W[de]
(;B[cg]C[

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Simba: You're going to give white quite a nice wall.
Simba: And he just got M16/M17.

])
(;B[bf]C[

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Simba: Here perhaps.
Enumaris: hmm

])))
(;B[dg];W[ef];B[ce];W[cd];B[eg];W[fg]
;B[eh]C[

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Simba: I like this for black.
Enumaris: but josekipedia sometimes just wrong lol 
Simba: Activate C14 right now.
Simba: Since O17 limits white at the top.
Simba: But white can shoulder hit at D7 to lightly make shape.
Enumaris: this empty triangle so painful tho haha

]))
(;B[pd]C[

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Simba: We have a slight delay unfortunately because the London Underground is functioning normally (i.e. poorly). One player is there, one is not yet.
Simba: Hi everyone :)

]
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;W[rc];B[qf];W[];B[mb];W[];B[ma]
;W[]C[

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Simba: We have a slight delay, so, does anyone have ideas for this problem?
Simba: Black to play and kill the top-right corner.
Simba: The players are a bit delayed from the London Underground having issues, so I'll just do general teaching/discussion until they begin shortly.
Sofiam: can I say the solution this time too? :)
Simba: Anyone have any go stuff they'd like to ask about?
Simba: And lol.
Simba: You again! :P
Sofiam: (hi)
Simba: How's it going?
Simba: I need to have more than one stock problem haha.

];B[pb];W[pa];B[ra]
;W[rb]C[

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Simba: Yep, good job.

];B[sd];W[sc];B[sa];W[qa];B[oa]
;W[sb]C[

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yahel.or.3: 1. From move 0: Q16 R17 R16 Q17 P17 P18 O17 O18 N17 S16 S15 S17 R14  N18  N19  Q18 Q19 S19 S18 T16 T17 T19 R19 P19 T18 

])
(;W[dd];B[pq];W[dp];B[qk]
;W[mp]C[

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Simba: I wrote an article for our journal on this position recently.
Simba: How lots of kyu players will play this N4 without really knowing why, and get a bad result.

];B[po]
;W[jp]C[

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Simba: The problem is, black in endgame might play this sweep...

];B[mr]C[

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Simba: And now white got nothing unless he knows a tesuji.
Simba: Anyone know the right move locally for white here?
Simba: The low Chinese is good for black unless you know this follow-up, so playing it as white without this is not wise.
Simba: Any ideas?

]
(;W[mq]C[

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Aldebaran_: is it N3?
Simba: If you play here, black can just O2.

];B[nr]C[

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Simba: And it's still all undercut.
Crayon: P4?

])
(;W[op]C[

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Crayon: That's true

];B[pp]
;W[nr]C[

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Simba: Like so?
Crayon: Yeah I guess

];B[nq]
(;W[oq];B[or])
(;W[mq];B[or];W[lr]
;B[ns]C[

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Simba: This way, black became very solid and got a lot of points.
Simba: And still there is aji for things like L2.

]))
(;W[qq]C[

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Simba: Here is the right tesuji.
Simba: Lots of people play this low Chinese as white without knowing this attachment.
Simba: So they end up getting a bad fuseki.
Simba: The idea of this move is...
Simba: But yeah, important to know this move if you play this as white.
Crayon: Nice
Simba: :)
Simba: Got any questions about positions/ideas or anything?
Enumaris: this game looks a bit weird
Simba: We're currently just waiting for one guy, London Underground is delayed.
Simba: Yeah, this is just me showing a position for teaching, Enumaris :)
Enumaris: why did black n2, seems like small on this board?
Simba: He didn't lol, I'm just giving you guys something to learn from until they start :)
Enumaris: oh
Simba: They're starting in a moment.
Simba: Both are there now.
Simba: 20 mins behind schedule but it's fine.
Enumaris: ok got it

]
(;B[qp];W[pr]
(;B[oq]
;W[rq]C[

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Simba: White can live in the corner.
Simba: Or...

])
(;B[rq];W[oq];B[qr]
;W[or]C[

-- chat --
Simba: White can cut off N2.

]))
(;B[pr]C[

-- chat --
Simba: If black play something like this, then white has a lot of aji on the right side.
Simba: plays*

])))))
