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Simba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m1w72OGGKg Stream is up here, apologies for the slight delay, overslept.

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Simba: That's better.
Lomis: The banner linked to the third round match, not this one.
Simba: Just to recap - both players get 1h45min of main time, then there's a short byo-yomi after that. This should be a good game - both of these players are former champions.
Simba: Ah, not good, thanks for letting me know.
Simba: Have poked the admin about it, I wondered why we only got one or two people.

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Simba: Oooh, this joseki.
Simba: It's quite rare to see white push up at O4, I wonder why he chose that move.
Simba: The right side is a very common half-fuseki if white plays O2.
Simba: Apologies being a bit late starting, I had a late night and ended up oversleeping.
bynum: how was ur snooker tournament?
Simba: It was good, I won, got a big trophy.
bynum: congrats!!
Simba: ty :)
bynum: to the genius simba
bynum: O4 is unusual but I've seen it before

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Simba: ^^
Simba: At least someone appreciates me. ;)

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Simba: All fairly standard so far, no fireworks.
Simba: Yeah of course, I have too, it's not like it's a new move.
Simba: Yep yep.
Simba: But it's a lot rarer than O2, especially in the shape on the right.
Simba: N2's the aggressive way for black to play.
bynum: yeah
Simba: But both should be able to settle easily enough.
bynum: When I was 3k, I played O4 and my teacher scolded me really hard

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Simba: Like this first.

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Simba: Perhaps something like this now, both sides making shape.
Simba: Then here.

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Simba: Then perhaps here, there are a few choices.

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Simba: Here also looks good.

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Simba: Or here perhaps.

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bynum: it was like playing 3-3 in the start
Simba: Yeah, it's a move you shouldn't play without a reason.
Simba: Like if O2 is not good enough for some reason.
Simba: Special purpose sorta thing.
bynum: a situational move
Simba: Yep.
Simba: But still valid, I don't dislike black in this joseki, seems even.
bynum: black seems ok
Simba: I think I preferred playing once more towards the centre for white.
Simba: brb, gonna get some noms. Not rice though, only 10:45am haha. A bit later though.
bynum: lol

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Simba: Otherwise this looks kind of troublesome.

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bynum: yes, black might not choose to protect the right side
Simba: I guess he'd have to play here and fight.

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bynum: oh
Simba: Mmm, white's shape is a little awkward.
Simba: O8 itself is quite light but if it does get cut off, the lower half of white's group won't have much wiggle room and will end up pretty weak.
Simba: So maybe he'll go for something a bit more flexible instead of leaning.
Simba: Currently Andrew Simons is on 3 wins, and Andrew Kay is on 2 wins.
Simba: So this game is huge.
Simba: It's actually a pretty even tournament this year - four players on 3 wins.
Simba: No one has a perfect score.
Simba: Both of these guys have won the title previously.
Simba: Andrew Simons was one of the people who taught me how to play so naturally I want him to do well, but Andrew Kay has a style that I've always admired, so exciting to watch, so also want him to do well.

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Simba: Like this say.

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Simba: It feels like white played a lot of dame moves.
alexx: Thanks for the relay. Watching from the Canary Islands
alexx: Yes

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Simba: Maybe this sort of idea.

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Simba: Yeah, white played here, I like this idea rather than leaning.
marshmn: live tournament results here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eD07a5CHv8UMJwPPLar_zHvqO0VYCDqwlxnApgJGi9w/edit?usp=sharing

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Simba: But it lets black pressure like this.

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sousys: since white is on the run, black is gonna build no matter what no?
sousys: ths is the game?
Simba: Yeah, but if white runs more towards the centre rather than towards the bottom, he won't solidify too much of it.
Simba: And he could come in later.
Simba: Yep.
Simba: F4's an interesting choice - all of the top bots dislike playing the one-space high shimari from a 4-4.
bynum: back and LOL what is this white's shape
sousys: white cant play away now right?
Simba: He could.
Simba: He could play at R12 now.
Simba: This is the game.
bynum: o
Simba: Still semi-afk making food :) won't be long now.
bynum: haha... I just made some instant noodles for myself
Simba: nomf
Simba: I made oatmeal, nothing too exciting.
Simba: Homemade leek, chicken and bacon soup later, with rice and garlic baguette. <3
Simba: nomf
Simba: White has around 55 minutes of main time remaining.
Simba: Black about 1 hour 35 minutes.
Simba: Lol 'nomf' means like 'yummy'.
Simba: It's not an abbreviation :) .
Simba: Like 'nomnomnom'.
Simba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blVEC0ERdnE this sound lol
Simba: That the kitten makes.
Simba: That's nom lol.
Simba: Can explain anything using cute kittens.
Simba: TOFL is an English test for foreign speakers?
bynum: yes
Simba: neat
Simba: Your English is very good, sure you did well in it :)
Simba: A lot better than my Chinese is lol.
bynum: oh shoot TOEFL
bynum: darn my brain
Simba: haha
Simba: I do like how this joseki tends to turn out for black - he gets decent territory on the bottom and white's group doesn't really do much.
bynum: yeah I think black is ok with this result
Simba: It's solid/thick in the centre, but it's unclear how to use that.
Simba: White could have R12'd either way.
bynum: R12 is the next big move
Simba: Yeah, I think K6 first is important though.
bynum: but as you said K6 should be exchanged first
Simba: White's not realistically going to be playing H3 this game I don't think.
Simba: So may as well K6 at this point.
Simba: The 3-3 is open.
bynum: yah
Simba: So black's F4 looks misplaced if white does K6 first.
Mr.Voo: i like white here
Mr.Voo: maybe approach teh lower left corner then solidify the upper right 

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Simba: Maybe this, to stop black coming up to K6.

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Simba: This could be reasonable for white. The 3-3 is still open.
Simba: At C3, that is.
Simba: So white should exchange like this first.
bynum: w can play K6 first
Simba: Yep.
bynum: this is game?

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Dyonn: Maybe AS is avoiding Alphagoisms this game, to play it safe :)
Simba: I guess black might just come here immediately.
Simba: Well 3-3ing under a 4-4 6-4 isn't an AlphaGoism.
Simba: It's just more so that black solidifying the bottom territory here isn't huge since white can still get C3 at the very least.
Simba: So it's not like black gets the entire lower left two thirds.
sousys: how strong are the players?
Mr.Voo: i like H4 for white a lot 
Simba: C3 lives locally under a 4-4 6-4 enclosure.
Simba: Both are 4d.
bynum: 4d
sousys: thanks

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sousys: to my nub eyes c6 aand p14 seem the biggest but white is super sad in the middle
Simba: But it's a bit awkward while black can still K6.
bynum: lol simba I am just too dumb to understand your abbreviations
bynum: oh
bynum: never appeared on the TOFL test
bynum: so idk
bynum: haha
Simba: White played here right away.
Simba: I guess he feels K6 is gote, fair enough.
Simba: He really needs to try to finish this area in sente though.
Simba: Black getting K6 would suck.

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Simba: If black gets this then white invading around H3 would be very dangerous.

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bynum: or else white would be attacked
Simba: Yeah, and suddenly black's then making 6th line points.
Simba: Never a good thing lol.

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Simba: This looks like a bad choice for white.
Simba: This ends in gote.
Simba: Black got thick.
Simba: And is going to get K6 or even K7 in.
Simba: No problem, hey alexx :) . You on vacation?
bynum: now b got sente.
Simba: Haha, dedicated go fan :) watching go even on vacation.
Simba: And yeah, I don't like this choice.

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bynum: b still has a cut point, which is really annoying
Simba: White needs to play Q14.
Simba: Big overplay to omit that.
bynum: I might not choose to play that now
Simba: Maybe, white didn't play Q14 yet. If white can play K6 here, it looks good for white.
Mr.Voo: go is cruel 
Simba: But the price he'll pain in the top right is potentially quite a lot.
Simba: pay*
Simba: Yeah, I think I'm liking K6 more here now.
Simba: Though Q14's gotta be reasonable too.
Simba: Big decision for white here.
Simba: This next move will shape the rest of the game.
Mr.Voo: he's gonna play the move of God
Simba: haha
bynum: haha
bynum: and then die
Simba: Well white has only 40 minutes maintime.
Mr.Voo: which simultaneously upsets everyone
Simba: K6 is the far simpler choice for white.
bynum: K6 +1
Simba: So based on time remaining he might choose that.
Simba: Black's only used about 15 mins.
Simba: 1h30m left.
bynum: playable
bynum: maybe even better
Simba: You like territory, I'm surprised you don't want Q14 ;)
Simba: That's like a 2,000 point corner.
bynum: I like territory???
bynum: haha
bynum: genius u got evidence? ;)
Simba: hahaha, from the commentary at Candidates a few weeks back.
bynum: lol
Mr.Voo: white is going to politely ask whether he can play two moves on a row.
Mr.Voo: in*
bynum: hm
bynum: Maybe try bribery?
Simba: haha

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bynum: it's really big but look at the bottom group...
Simba: Here now?
Mr.Voo: so white ended up in gote. now black is gonna harass the weak group. 

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bynum: yah
Simba: Yeah but rarrr.
bynum: if b wants aji just let him get it
Simba: I guess, I'm just concerned since black's getting so thick.
Simba: If white ends up with two unsettled groups, mmm.
bynum: yeah b is really thick

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Simba: White could play this way.
bynum: game?
Simba: No, but it's an option, not resisting R16 much.
Simba: Now black's thickness is kinda tempered.
Simba: He traded that thickness for getting a bit-better-than-usual result in the top right.
Mr.Voo: if white's gonna lose teh top right he should get some compensation on the bottom left. so he should probably attack instead of playing a passive move like K6
Simba: I think this is fine for white.
Simba: Nah, attacking is unreasonable.
bynum: i'm just concerned that after playing Q14 b will attack the stuff outta the bottom group 
Simba: K6 is bigger than it looks.
Simba: Because is stops black expanding.
bynum: yah
Simba: And also supports moves like G4.
bynum: and leaves potential aji

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Simba: White did take this.
bynum: or he can try the way I suggested yesterday with the ko
Simba: This does feel honte really.
bynum: black needs to attack white now
Simba: Yep.
Simba: White's shape is reasonably solid though, I mean, N7 is about as solid as he could have locally played.
Mr.Voo: tehre is still aji in the corner, right? 
Simba: No aji there now.
bynum: u mean R17?
Simba: Q14 is what's needed to get rid of the aji.
bynum: yah
Simba: That's why it was such a big deal for white to play it.
Simba: In this upper right joseki, you always want to play Q14 Voo.
bynum: voo, s16 not gonna work
Simba: The only reason we were considering not doing so here is because white's centre group is now really weak.

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Simba: Like okay, even if black does get this...
Simba: 3-3's still open.
Simba: White got a big upper right corner.
bynum: ask alphago
Simba: And B does jump.
Simba: Run away pretty white stones.
Mr.Voo: now black can also play C7 
Simba: C7 still probably leaves corner aji.
Simba: I prefer C8 if you're going to play over there.
Simba: More threat against white's group.
Mr.Voo: what happens after C8 then C6
Simba: Like if white jumps into C6?
Mr.Voo: yes
bynum: yo simba
Simba: sup
bynum: suggestions for w now?
Simba: I still like K8, that's my instinct.

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Simba: And he could play like this and give up that white central group.

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Mr.Voo: white's playing with the stone in his hand

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Simba: This kind of idea.
bynum: that's a pretty big sacrifice
sousys: anda pretty weak middle
bynum: and I'm not too sure how much w's influence can get
Simba: Instinctively this feels playable for white for me but you'd have to count it.
Simba: Well it was more than if white didn't sacrifice, black was going to take quite a lot while attacking.
bynum: cuz w has a cut point+ b has two directions to reduce
Simba: Remember black has played a lot of moves inside, like P6.
Simba: And white got extra on the top right.
Mr.Voo: black can easily invade by E13 and putting pressure on the left group
Simba: Yep.
Simba: This is more of a trade idea, unsure if good or not.

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Simba: White maybe could fight.
Simba: It's not obvious that black can just take all of that.
Simba: I think white can fight like this.
bynum: wait

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Simba: Or like this, and curl over.

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Mr.Voo: i would play H9 instead of J8
Simba: If white just runs vertically up, black will jump with him.
Simba: This way white got to curl around, using K8 as a sacrifice.
Mr.Voo: that's a lot of black territory and a useless white wall 

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bynum: here?. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 N2 O5 S3 S2 Q7 M5 K4 O8 P6 N7 F4 R12 Q12 Q11 P11 R11 R10 Q13 P12 R13 P10 Q14 K6 K8 L7 

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bynum: lol

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Simba: Similar idea.
bynum: simba
Mr.Voo: he attached

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bynum: this. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 N2 O5 S3 S2 Q7 M5 K4 O8 P6 N7 F4 R12 Q12 Q11 P11 R11 R10 Q13 P12 R13 P10 Q14 K6 K8 L7 M9 M8 

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Simba: Mmm, reading.
Simba: Too early in the morning haha.

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Mr.Voo: then jumping to the corner if white wants to surround 

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Mr.Voo: black*
Simba: Yeah but white's group at the top left isn't solid.
Simba: Even this diagonal move looks a bit ominous.
Mr.Voo: i would play D10 here . 

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Simba: Right, but now your C6 stone is cut off.
Mr.Voo: then when black surrounds, i will jump to the corner

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Simba: But if e.g. here.
Mr.Voo: but now black is weak too. what after E6 or D7
Simba: haha, it's a different game, we'll see if they play it.

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Simba: Remember this is still open though.
Simba: If you start playing things like C6, you might lose this.
Mr.Voo: right 

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Simba: hmm
bynum: then if w n9 b squeezes in
bynum: L7 here. no hesitation
Simba: I would play hane the other side without thinking. ;)
Simba: hahaha
Simba: It's fine, style.
Simba: It's his problem, let him worry about it, keep thick, solid shape.
Simba: I don't like crazy fighty stuff since my reading's bad lol.
bynum: u are the imaginative guy
bynum: with the innovative openings
Simba: rofl.
Simba: Nah, I was just bored and decided earlier in the day I was going to open with 6-5 7-5.
bynum: I'm the crude guy who likes to mess around
Simba: It was a day where nothing interesting happened.

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bynum: i say definitely cut. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 N2 O5 S3 S2 Q7 M5 K4 O8 P6 N7 F4 R12 Q12 Q11 P11 R11 R10 Q13 P12 R13 P10 Q14 K6 K7 L7 
bynum: hane the other way is just too...
bynum: "cowardly"
bynum: ahhh sorry

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Simba: He hane'd this way.
marshmn: I'm the vague guy who likes to play in the middle somewhere :)
bynum: LOL
Simba: heheh.
bynum: I want to vomit blood
Simba: I won that game.
Simba: By like 10-15 or so.
bynum: lol...
Simba: And yes, I have the displeasure of having to teach marshmn IRL two nights per week.
Simba: It really is as bad as he says.
marshmn: that's why I'm only 4k ^^
Simba: He has this thing "what would Guo Juan do?"
Simba: And then dies.
bynum: haha
Simba: You're only 4k because you hear but don't listen.
Pensho: W K8, B L6
bynum: of course not...

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Simba: White's only got 20 minutes left.
bynum: ...
bynum: I would say M8
bynum: lol where did he go
Pensho: M8 now? and then J8?
Pensho: bynum, did he play M8 before K8?

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Simba: Bleh, I don't like this for white.
Simba: Black's getting a bit too solid and white's still mostly running vertically.
Simba: Haneing at J9 here would be overplay I think.

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bynum: 1. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 N2 O5 S3 S2 Q7 M5 K4 O8 P6 N7 F4 R12 Q12 Q11 P11 R11 R10 Q13 P12 R13 P10 Q14 K6 K7 J7 K8 L6 M8 J8 K10 

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Simba: Like this.
Simba: Sorry, my net went out for a few minutes, it always does when roomie starts up his computer.
bynum: i thought u went to eat ur oatmeal
Simba: This is the game currently.
Simba: No lol, I ate that already.
Simba: It was crap.
Simba: Needs moar rice.
bynum: hey...

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bynum: C8?
Simba: Wow, here.
Simba: I'm surprised black didn't push once more.
bynum: huh
bynum: a little passive
Simba: Yeah, not like him.
Simba: J9 turn's really thick.
bynum: J9 and C7 are moves w would want
TobyM: can B live (with ko?) at R17?

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MahouBootCamp: w
bynum: oo.
bynum: testing move
Simba: Yeah, I guess seeing how relevant C7 is with the endgame follow-up at B5.
Zugz: can white live there? im very new
Simba: He can't, no.
Simba: But it might give him a chance to do something at the left or the bottom.
Simba: For example H3 for C7.
bynum: MahouBootCamp:试应手
marshmn: Andrew Kay just used 30 seconds of his time rooting out a plastic stone from his bowl (of glass stones)
Simba: Depending on how black replies.
NeonLights: Is it possible that the plastic stone is part of a coded message
MahouBootCamp: Yep
NeonLights: thanks
Simba: White has about nearly 60 points with komi, black's got about 55, so I think white's a bit ahead here.
Simba: It's unclear what will happen with this C3 though.
MahouBootCamp: lets use english
bynum: ok lol
Simba: No, that dies because white had Q14.
bynum: no

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Simba: This move kills the corner.

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Simba: Like this say.
TobyM: Thanks

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Simba: Aha, black played this side.
Simba: So white can play C7 now aiming at B5 later in the endgame.
Simba: The timing on white's C3 here was excellent.
bynum: ＋1
Simba: So you'd expect white to play C7 now, otherwise C3 would be wasted after black C8.

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bynum: oh, this one.
Simba: Hmm, turned here.
Simba: Black can just C8 here though.
Simba: White must be hoping this is sente, I guess with the J6 cut.
bynum: I still like w though
Simba: But with white's centre group alive now, those two stones are no longer important.
Simba: Yeah, depends how much of the top he can convert.
Simba: Just a surprising order of moves.
bynum: w is hoping that b will defend e.g. G8
Simba: Yeah, seems optimistic.

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Simba: np
Simba: And now C3 looks bad?
bynum: didn't get to be used
Simba: Yeah, I don't like that.

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MahouBootCamp: lol
Simba: Like by tewari, if white bumped.
Simba: Black is never going to play that hane.

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Simba: This looks crazy.

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Simba: Mmm, black played here.
bynum: alphago??
bynum: lol

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MahouBootCamp: we're all learning from teacher alphago now
Simba: I'm not sure I understand black's move.

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Simba: But like, drawing back here?
Simba: White's gaining quite a bit on the side.
bynum: white can take alot of stuff down there
Simba: And still has e.g. G8.
bynum: + settling down
Simba: Push again for white looks good.
Simba: This also fully stabilises his left group.
bynum: yah
bynum: or B7?
Simba: Prefer C8.
Simba: Feels more sente against the D8 stones.
bynum: k

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bynum: hane first

]
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Simba: I kind of want to just turn here.
Simba: J7/J8 aren't very important with white settled.
Simba: And white has H9 to worry about.

])
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Simba: He cut right away.
bynum: now that's Andrew Kay!

]
(;W[gl]C[

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Simba: Maybe white can play like this?

]
(;B[hj]C[

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Simba: If black comes up here, then...

]
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Simba: Like this.
bynum: hm...
Simba: And that'd be good for white.

])
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;W[io]C[

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bynum: 2. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 N2 O5 S3 S2 Q7 M5 K4 O8 P6 N7 F4 R12 Q12 Q11 P11 R11 R10 Q13 P12 R13 P10 Q14 K6 K7 J7 K8 L6 M8 J8 K9 C5 C3 D3 J9 D9 C9 D8 H8 H9 G8 H10 L4 L3 J6 H7 J5 

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Simba: So black needs to take this liberty.

];W[fk]C[

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Simba: But now white plays here and I can't find a good move for black.
Simba: White has the ladder on those two.

];B[fj]C[

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bynum: only hane now.

];W[fl];B[ej];W[in];B[hm];W[hn];B[gm]
;W[fn]C[

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Simba: And this is just a net.
bynum: and that's not good..
Simba: Yeah, black can't play this way.
Simba: H9 must be an overplay then.

]))
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Simba: Yeah, I think white's seen it.
Simba: He played this one first.
bynum: yeah, he saw it...
Simba: Sharp play by white, reading the H9 cut as bad.
bynum: K3?
bynum: nope
Simba: It's got the same problems.

]
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;W[io]C[

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Simba: Like this.
bynum: yah
Simba: Miai of G6 and K5.
bynum: really nice reading from w

])
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Simba: B blocked.
Simba: G8 now for white.

];W[gl]C[

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Simba: Yep, got it.
Simba: Lovely play.
bynum: b collasps

];B[hn]C[

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Simba: That's horrific for B.
Simba: W so thick in the centre now.
bynum: what's horrific?
Simba: This result.
Simba: Or you mean what the word means?
Simba: It's like, really bad.
bynum: oohhh

]
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Simba: White can just take this and be happy enough.
bynum: #badenglish
MahouBootCamp: lol
Simba: Better than my Chinese lol.
bynum: Mahou你笑啥啊 :)
MahouBootCamp: （抿嘴
bynum: 666
bynum: yeah white has gained alot from this.

])
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Simba: 塞翁失马
Simba: That is the extent of my Chinese, lol.
MahouBootCamp: wow
bynum: hahahahaha
bynum: genius...
Simba: lmao
Simba: No, I just saw it on a YouTube video about bilingual problems.
bynum: ooohhhh
Simba: Since it doesn't translate very well.

];B[hj];W[hi];B[ij];W[gk]
;B[ii]C[

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bynum: this way?

];W[ih]C[

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Simba: Yeah, hum, questionable.
marshmn: white now into byo-yomi
marshmn: 15 stones in 5 mins Canadian

];B[ji]C[

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Simba: They seem not to resign until quite late I've noticed.
Simba: Most of the time when we think they're about to resign it goes on another 50-100 moves haha.
bynum: like the first game I saw
Simba: lol yes, where black died at the bottom.
bynum: Andrew could kill b without question...
Simba: But Andrew has stylezzzz
bynum: AND HE DIDN'T
bynum: and made a horrible shape
Simba: lol, it wasn't as horrible as when he played the M4 invasion then the whole group died...
Simba: From Saturday.
bynum: LOL IKR
bynum: he's unstable
Simba: Nah, be nice, he's a very good player, he's won the British title a couple of times.

]
(;W[li]C[

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Simba: W can just come out.
Simba: No need for panic.
bynum: good move.
bynum: wow
Simba: White probably can make two eyes inside if he needs to.
Simba: He has good shape.

];B[jh];W[hh];B[lh];W[mh];B[mi];W[mj];B[ni]
;W[lj]C[

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Simba: This sort of thing.
Simba: And K12 still not out.

]
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;W[jg]C[

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Simba: This isn't good.

])
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bynum: if that happens b can resign

]))
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Simba: wowww
Simba: White took this!
bynum: ???

];B[li];W[mj];B[mi]
;W[pl]C[

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bynum: I think I got some hallucinations

];B[ol]C[

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Simba: He's in byo-yomi...
Simba: yeesh
Simba: Maybe he read out a local way to live.
Simba: S4 is crazy otherwise.

];W[ok];B[om]
;W[pk]C[

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bynum: that was like "oh I can attack b and maybe kill him"
bynum: and then "I will play a yose move"
Simba: Yeah I don't get this at all.
Simba: Black can just connect with R8 now.
Simba: And white still has to live.
bynum: arrgh, these games are crazy
bynum: just like the alphago self plays
Simba: You should come live in England then enter.
Simba: You could win :)
bynum: is tygem 9d enough?
Simba: lol yes
MahouBootCamp: i cant understand a single move of alphago self plays
Simba: No one in England is Tygem 9d as far as I know.
bynum: but I like China 
Simba: You're 9d on there?
bynum: yeah
marshmn: black still has 1 hour left of his main time
Simba: dang, teach me
bynum: ....
MahouBootCamp: 大佬
bynum: lol
MahouBootCamp: 萌新瑟瑟发抖
Simba: Are you stronger than 5d on here then? Just not play on here much?
bynum: Mahou: 桑巴对我崇拜了哈哈哈
bynum: My correspondence is approaching 6d
Simba: ahhh
bynum: but I often timeout on blitz
Simba: Yeah you might need to give me 2 stones lol.
bynum: so I'm at 2520... lol
Simba: I didn't realise you were so good haha.
Simba: Just thought same level as me with the 5d label :)
Simba: But you're like pro lol.
bynum: nonono you are really good

];B[qm]C[

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Simba: haha, you're just modest, Tygem 9d is super strong.
Simba: Hmm, here, it's another way to connect.
Simba: Little bit more aji though.

];W[ki]C[

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Simba: hmm
Simba: I guess he's just forcing to make a local life now.
Simba: Black might get the double atari at H12 in though.
bynum: yeh

];B[kh];W[kj];B[jh]
;W[nk]C[

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bynum: wait...

];B[rj];W[lj]
;B[gi]C[

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Simba: This sequence ended up being a bit too good for B really.
Simba: He got S10 in too.

];W[fi];B[hh];W[ej]
;B[ch]C[

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bynum: I still don't understand S4
bynum: does he think he already won??

];W[dh]C[

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MahouBootCamp: crazy game
Simba: C12's a bit odd.
Simba: But white has like 10 seconds lol.
Simba: So I guess he just hoped white would lose there and then.
Simba: I guess he thought that, yeah.
Simba: He used most of his byo-yomi time on that one move.

];B[lc];W[ld];B[kd];W[kc]
;B[ke]C[

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Simba: Well W didn't lose on time at least.
Simba: Next period starting.

];W[jc]C[

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marshmn: he's going to have quite a few periods of byo-yomi I guess...
Simba: Yep.
Simba: Do you play on KGS bynum? How strong are you on there if so?
bynum: no I don't play KGS
Simba: ahhh
Simba: Foxy?
marshmn: I guess that at least with black having a lot of time left (approx 55 mins), then white is likely to get more thinking time during black's turns
bynum: i quit fox
bynum: but 9d too
Simba: Too good haha.
bynum: geniuses don't need to be modest.
Simba: I'm not sure that's how it'll work marshmn.
Simba: With white being so low on time, black often will play very fast too.
Simba: To try to pressure white.
marshmn: sure

];B[qc]C[

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bynum: oh..
Simba: Oooh boy.
Simba: M17 causes problems now.
bynum: nice timing.
Simba: Yeah.
Simba: Poor W, after he played Q14 too.

];W[pc]C[

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bynum: strong. 
bynum: I don't think I will win easily...
Simba: Yeah, but S14 threatens to connect.
Simba: Endgame gain at least.

];B[rd]C[

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Simba: If you enter you might play me one day :)
bynum: england is way too far
Simba: B being a pain in the backside here for white. This must hurt after white spent the move to play the Q14 honte.
bynum: yah
Simba: Psychologically painful.
bynum: argh this all started from S4
bynum: that was a 5k mistake...
Simba: S18 kills it all maybe? Hard to read.
Simba: The O18 stone is in a useful spot.
Simba: O17

];W[rf]C[

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bynum: S14 game?

];B[pb]C[

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Simba: Yep, this is the game.
Simba: B offers a ko.
Simba: But white can still try to kill it all with S18.
Dyonn: My opponents often tell me they get stressed when I go into byo-yomi

];W[ob]C[

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Simba: Yeah, makes sense Dyonn.
Simba: I guess the whole pace becomes a bit frantic.
bynum: S18 now
Simba: Yep, S18 only move.

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bynum: we got some aji baby
Simba: Aji is just the go word for 'magic'.
bynum: dinner time byebye
Simba: Cya later :) next game in 1h40min
Simba: Hope to see you there.

])
(;B[qb]C[

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Simba: Oh, lol, yeah, of course, this just lives.

]
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MahouBootCamp: I was a little confused when I first saw those japanese words
MahouBootCamp: cause i only know chinese

])
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Simba: ^^ I guess in actual characters though you can read them in Chinese and it works?
Simba: Just not the Japanese readings when we type them in English.

]
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(;B[km];W[kl];B[rm];W[cm];B[mn];W[io];B[in];W[le];B[cf];W[df]
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Simba: Mmm, bit of an unfortunate game for white, he played so well in the middle game, with moves like G8 and C3, but just kind of fell apart in byo-yomi.

];B[re];W[bo];B[bp]
;W[cn]C[

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Simba: C6 is another nice move though.
Simba: Stronger against the centre than B6 would have been.

];B[bn]
;W[bm]C[

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Simba: 3rd byo-yomi period for white starting.

];B[ao];W[em];B[qe];W[kf];B[pe]
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marshmn: he was very close to timing-out there
Simba: Yeah, looked it.
Simba: Any other results in yet?
marshmn: Alex Rix beat Tim Hunt
marshmn: other games are still ongoing
Simba: Ah, shame, that was a big chance for Tim, if he beat Alex and Joanne he probably would have qualified.
Simba: Still, could beat Andrew Simons next round, still in with a shot.
Simba: Andrew Kay's paused for a moment here, may well be counting.
Simba: He's fairly comfortably ahead here, after capturing C16 and getting the top right.
Mr.Voo: i know. so they should give the option to the person who has created teh demo to mark one variation as the main one
Mr.Voo: anyway, i think it should be easy.
Mr.Voo: but hte way, when did black go wrong?when he cut at P14 I suppose... he could just connect everything and live by something like N13
Mr.Voo: and it would be game over for white

];B[of];W[og];B[nf];W[ng];B[od];W[ne];B[mf];W[mg]
;B[me]C[

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Simba: This is risky!

]
(;W[lf]C[

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Simba: White can play here now.
Simba: The middle centre group for black is not 100% alive.
Simba: This is probably white's last chance.

])
(;W[lg]
(;B[nd];W[lh];B[mh]
;W[je]C[

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Simba: This is exciting now.
Simba: If white kills this, he wins.
Simba: N17 is huge endgame for a little later.
Simba: O6 also very big.

];B[kg];W[nh];B[ni]
;W[lf]C[

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G-O: why would black play this and short liberties now?
G-O: ahyes, thanks Simba
Simba: ^^
TobyM: Does O6 work for W? I think he can save his 5 stones O3 etc but by doing so he throws the whole group into ko

]
(;B[ig]C[

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Simba: Well white can't play K13 anymore, for example.
Simba: So it improves the integrity of the J12 eye.

];W[oo];B[po]
;W[pn]C[

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TobyM: After W played Q6, if B plays at O6 and sacrifices 5 stones, who wins then?

]
(;B[qn];W[qo]
;B[pn]C[

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Simba: Oh, nice.
Simba: This way there's some good aji since black's right is short of liberties.

];W[nn];B[nm];W[ln];B[lm];W[ml];B[lk]
(;W[ri]C[

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Simba: Like this now, black's dead.

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(;W[qk]
;B[rk]C[

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Simba: Dang, he played it.
Simba: I think B's just dead here.
Simba: S11 here now.

];W[rn]
;B[rl]C[

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Simba: White about halfway through his 4th period.

];W[nj];B[lp]
;W[ri]C[

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Simba: Wow, much drama.
Simba: So black's cut at P14 lost him the game.
Simba: Too greedy. Having to come back to play J13 was too much.
Simba: Exciting.
bynum: lol what just happened...
Simba: Black got greedy.
Simba: So white killed him.
Simba: You leave for food and miss the best bits lol.
MahouBootCamp: crazy game
Simba: Yeah.
Simba: I've been looking forward to this one.

];B[sm];W[sj];B[sk]
;W[si]C[

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bynum: w+r
Simba: Yeah, that's just enormous.
marshmn: white just asked black if he is resigning
marshmn: black replied that he's thinking about it
Simba: really? wow
Simba: I would probably hit my opponent if I was asked that lol.
Simba: But I guess these two know each other very well.
MahouBootCamp: i'd overturn the board
Simba: haha

];B[ko]C[

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sousys: i agree, marking main line in review would be a good idea. usually a review of a game has the original game on top line, but when commenting ongoing game, it becomes a mess

];W[mo]C[

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TobyM: Thanks
Simba: np

];B[oc];W[fn];B[go];W[mc];B[dn];W[dm];B[am];W[bl];B[gb];W[hb]
;B[fc];W[hc];B[ha];W[ia];B[ga]
;W[nb]C[

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Mr.Voo: lol. so at the end, there WAS an aji in that upper right corner.
Simba: Black got a couple more moves locally :) .
Simba: On the outside.
Simba: But look at the P10 group.
Mr.Voo: you mean S10?
Simba: Black died.
Mr.Voo: yeah looks sad

];B[bi];W[ci];B[ah];W[bj];B[ch];W[fb];B[fa]
;W[bh]C[

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Mr.Voo: so black can happily resign at this point. that's just too big.
Simba: Yep.

];B[sq]C[

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Dyonn: Could do, But who ever won by resigning?

];W[sr];B[ch];W[ea];B[da];W[bh];B[sn];W[sp]
;B[ch]C[

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Mr.Voo: i remember I once won my dignity by resigning. 
Dyonn: :D

];W[de];B[ce];W[bh];B[rq];W[sq]
;B[ch]C[

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Simba: +1

];W[gg];B[gh]
;W[bh]C[

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Mr.Voo: are they discussing with the referee? 

];B[mq];W[so];B[ch];W[md];B[oe];W[bh];B[mp];W[mn]
;B[ch]C[

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Simba: Nah, just people watching.

];W[eo];B[do];W[bh];B[ib];W[ja]
;B[ch]C[

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Mr.Voo: white does not have enough threats 
Simba: W killed half the damn board, he doesn't need any threats lol.

];W[rg]
;B[fh]C[

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Mr.Voo: black is all empty threats while white is getting things done 

];W[eh]C[

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bynum: black is hustling to minimize the difference and he does have many points
Simba: This is silly anyway, the moves barely matter at this point.
bynum: but the dead group is just too big...
Simba: B resigned :) .
bynum: gg
Simba: Well done Andrew, 4/5 wins now.
Simba: Great chance of qualifying.
Simba: Right, I'm gonna rush off to cook, 45 mins until the next round, might be a bit late starting.
Simba: I'll try to at least get the demo up but won't be discussing 'til food is done :) .
Simba: Take care, thanks for watching/discussing, see you all then.
Mr.Voo: see you Simba 
Mr.Voo: thanks for the relay
Mr.Voo: and the analysis 
Mr.Voo: I wish OGS had a feature that would help you distinguish the main line from the variations easily. 
Mr.Voo: they can mark it with a different color. shouldn't be difficult. 
sousys: how would ogs know what the main line was when its a demo/review?

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;W[qo]C[

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Simba: White's still going to get some sort of squeeze like this.

];B[lk]
;W[jo]C[

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Simba: There's also stuff like this now.
Simba: So it looks like this favours white too.
Simba: The centre also still is not 100% alive.

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(;B[cr];W[nn];B[nm];W[ln];B[lm];W[mo]
;B[ml]C[

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Simba: The whole group just dies actually.
Simba: So yeah, best for white not to play this.

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(;B[md];W[lf];B[mc];W[nd];B[nb];W[oc];B[mb]
;W[lh]C[

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TobyM: Actually B's mistake was to play N12 in response to the cut t M12. If he played at O11 he gets 2 extra liberties...

]))))))))))))))
(;W[jk]C[

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Simba: Yeah this doesn't make sense.

];B[ll]))))
(;B[qc]C[

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Mr.Voo: maybe s16. i don't know
Mr.Voo: i see
Mr.Voo: OK 

]
(;W[qd];B[rd]
;W[re]C[

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Mr.Voo: alright. not even a ko. good

])
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Simba: This move kills the 3-3.

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;W[qc]C[

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Simba: Yeah, like this.

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(;W[jo]C[

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bynum: K5?

];B[io]
;W[jn]C[

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Simba: What about this?
Simba: Now white got his move but also got a cut put in black's position.
Simba: Yeah.
Simba: If black defends, white gets Q14.
Simba: If not, then there's a lot of aji in that cut.
bynum: yeah I understand your thinking

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(;W[km]C[

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Simba: Maybe this one? What do you think bynum?
Simba: Struggling to find the right move here. N7 looks like black gets nice pressure from the left.
Simba: This one's a little more loose, but black can't be so severe from the left now.
sousys: what about k6?

])
(;W[jn];B[hp]
(;W[hn]
;B[mm]C[

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Simba: Yeah, this is okay, but it has this as a problem again.
Simba: And white's moves again look a bit dameish while black made points.

])
(;W[kl]C[

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Simba: Maybe this.

];B[mm]
;W[nm]C[

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Simba: Since white could cut here in this variation.

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;B[mp]C[

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bynum: usually goes like this. From move 0: Q4 Q16 D4 C16 E16 G17 C17 C13 D16 B16 E18 K16 B17 C10 R14 O17 Q10 O3 M3 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O4 P3 P2 Q2 R2 O2 Q1 O5 N2 N4 

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;W[qh]C[

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Simba: This sort of thing.
bynum: ooo
Simba: Heya. :) Morning everyone.

]))))
(;B[of]
;W[df]C[

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marshmn: ask Simba

];B[mo];W[ep]
;B[gf]C[

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Simba: Next time you say I play territorially, bynum...
Simba: Remember this. I was black. ;)
bynum: ....
bynum: ...
bynum: ...
bynum: ...
bynum: ...

]))
