(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[10800]OT[10/600 Canadian]
GN[BGA Championship title game 1]PW[Daniel Hu]PB[Andrew Simons]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2017-08-19]EV[BGA Championship title game 1]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[BGAadmin [-\]: hi all
BGAadmin [-\]: we are just about to start
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;B[dd]
;W[dp]C[BGATeach [-\]: The game will be cloned (and annotated) in British Room
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;B[pc]
;W[pp]
;B[qn]
;W[nq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: ngarry please could you promote our title game in the English game room? with the commentary by BGATeach in the Britisg room?
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;B[pf]C[BGAadmin [-\]: ngarry: thanks! could you maybe also promote the cloned commentary game by bgateach? many thanks
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;W[fc]C[ngarry [-\]: moment
lo [8k\]: is there a link to the champioship perhaps ?
lo [8k\]: oh never mind
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;B[id]
;W[cf]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Commentary in the cloned game by BGATeach is from Matthew Macfadyen
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;B[fe]C[BGAadmin [-\]: After 30 minutes play, Black has used 24 minutes and white just 6
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Oooh, this move is quite rare.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: More often black attaches with F16.
sh [4k\]: Wonder if this is some kind of live tournament game
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: It is, yeah.
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Game 1 of the British title match.
sh [4k\]: I see
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;W[dc]
;B[cc]
;W[cd]C[ptitlou [1d\]: hi, any live stream?
BGAadmin [-\]: There is no live video, but we are relaying the moves as they happen
BGAadmin [-\]: After 1 hours play, B has used 43 minutes and W 17
Lice [5d?\]: 43 minutes for this? ~.~
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;B[ce]
;W[bd]
;B[ec]
;W[db]C[logitech [5d\]:  D18, B15, D15, E16, B17, D14 E18 and then P6
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: I wonder which of them will win.
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;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[eb]
;W[ed]
;B[de]
;W[fb]C[BGAadmin [-\]: After 90 mins play B has used 72 mins and W 18
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;B[cb]
;W[ea]
;B[bb]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]
;W[df]
;B[fd]
;W[ec]C[rubik [6d?\]: lol 72 minutes for 15 moves
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;B[bf]
;W[bg]C[Haigha [2k\]: b has a secret plan, he read out till endgame
hvk [-\]: a17 f14 e13 f13 e12 f12 e11 h15 
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;B[cg]
;W[dg]
;B[eg]
;W[dh]
;B[ac]
;W[eh]
;B[gf]
;W[ib]
;B[hi]C[BGAadmin [-\]: After 2 hours B has used 94 mins and W 26
renkfull [5k\]: g13?
Akko [2k\]: The names of the players? I am in my phone 
BGAadmin [-\]: B is Andrew Simons and W Daniel Hu
Akko [2k\]: Thank you ! :)
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;W[ql]
;B[qj]
;W[pn]C[Arnaud99 [2k\]: is ti really interessting to save R6 here ?
Warfreak2 [-\]: it's not beyond the bounds of normalcy
Arnaud99 [2k\]: I would tennuki if I were black. If white plays one more stone to kill R6, he'll be a bit overcontrentrated
Warfreak2 [-\]: not really, white r5 would be a good gote move to remove the corner invasion anyway, and the r6/q6 exchange is then a loss for black
Warfreak2 [-\]: but tenuki is possible because that gote is a bit early
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;B[dn]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: i prefer w in this position
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: agree
Warfreak2 [-\]: where is the game being played?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Cambridge.
BGAadmin [-\]: After 2.5 hours B has 1:13 remaining and W 2:17
timhunt [?\]: Thank you very much for doing the relay, BGAadmin. Who are you today?
Welvang [6d\]: wait they took 2,5h to fail a joseki :/ ?
BGAadmin [-\]: The next move will be the sealed move before we break for lunch
Welvang [6d\]: c6 or f4 both are good
Warfreak2 [-\]: c6 leads to a fight for d12, doesn't it?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Do you ever pincer this, Welvang? D8?
Welvang [6d\]: where is there the most space to play ?
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: obv F4, but I don't really want black extending to D9.
Welvang [6d\]: i'd rahter live small with d12 later and keep all the point while black plays dame
renkfull [5k\]: d8 or c9 if pincer?
BGAadmin [-\]: sealed move now made
Welvang [6d\]: c8 b6 
BGAadmin [-\]: The sealed move is decided. at the lunch break clocks show B 1:13 and W 2:08. BGA Admin this morning was Simon Mader I will be handing over to Matt REid for this afternoon to record with Mtt Marsh here as well
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Thanks Simon.
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Oh? First time I see sealed move concept in an amateur tournament
Warfreak2 [-\]: approximately when will the game resume?
zxcvbnm [1d\]: I thought it's reserved for pros only
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: 2:10pm
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Clearly proven wrong
wolfsrain2 [8d?\]: Well they have to eat, zx lol
Warfreak2 [-\]: zxc, the british championship title match has always had a sealed move for lunch
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Ah, I see
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Forgive my ignorance
Warfreak2 [-\]: you are forgiven
zxcvbnm [1d\]: I humbly thank thee
Warfreak2 [-\]: now go and sin no more, or something like that
zxcvbnm [1d\]: Thy will is my command
BGAadmin [-\]: No problem. Depending how long it takes for lunch it may be a little after 2:10
agony [4k\]: Black is Uberdude?
kmr [1d\]: yes, unless his acc got hacked
maggrig [1k\]: what is this match?
agony [4k\]: BGA Championship title game one
maggrig [1k\]: And what is BGA?
hjb [2d\]: The British Go Association
maggrig [1k\]: Ah I see thanks!
timhunt [?\]: The title match is best of 3 games.
timhunt [?\]: They should be starting again soon.
Warfreak2 [-\]: this is probably the first title match where i want both players to win
BGAadmin [-\]: hi
BGAadmin [-\]: we're just back from lunch
BGAadmin [-\]: about to start again
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;W[dl]C[BGAadmin [-\]: And onwards
BGAadmin [-\]: White played the sealed move and neglected to hit his clock: 2:03 vs 1:13 left
Warfreak2 [-\]: i assume daniel has the 2 hours?
BGAadmin [-\]: Yes. Andrew is being slower
Warfreak2 [-\]: i expect andrew has noticed his own clock isn't ticking
BGAadmin [-\]: Digital clocks; but who can tell
Warfreak2 [-\]: of course andrew demanded a digital clock
rogeko [2k\]: h15can hurt badly
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;B[el]C[BGAadmin [-\]: 1:49 on white's clock when that is played
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;W[dk]C[zxcvbnm [1d\]: It's still daniel's clock that's running?
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;B[fp]
;W[eo]C[lo [7k\]: does black need c3 ?
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;B[cq]C[r0n1n [2d\]: what do you mean, need ?
lo [7k\]: does he need the points in this corner
BGAadmin [-\]: Now the clocks are being hit properly; just the first move was Andrew thinking on Daniel's time
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;W[cp]
;B[dq]C[r0n1n [2d\]: well, he approached and white didn't directly defend it, d6 and f4 are pointless if you don't take the corner
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;W[hp]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: e6 is enormous
Warfreak2 [-\]: i can't resist playing e6 immediately as either player
r0n1n [2d\]: e6 f5 f3 , something like this ?
hjb [2d\]: I think h4 is trying to show moral fibre by deliberately not playing e6 right away
Warfreak2 [-\]: e6 f5 f3 is better shape
Warfreak2 [-\]: er, that
r0n1n [2d\]: better shape than exactly the same thing ?
Warfreak2 [-\]: i oopsed when reading
r0n1n [2d\]: ah, ok
r0n1n [2d\]: what would come next for white ?
Warfreak2 [-\]: reply hazy, try again later
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;B[ep]
;W[do]C[r0n1n [2d\]: d7 now ?
r0n1n [2d\]: i was wondering about e4 , but it doesn't look as severe
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;B[ho]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Daniel has 1:46, Andrew 51 minutes
Warfreak2 [-\]: not sure what h5 is for
Warfreak2 [-\]: is b really planning d7?
Warfreak2 [-\]: he can't be going for centre territory
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;W[ip]
;B[go]C[r0n1n [2d\]: looks like he is
Warfreak2 [-\]: no, it's for an attempted splitting attack
lo [7k\]: perhaps black wants to attack j4 ?
Warfreak2 [-\]: either b pulls out d6, or pincers j4
Warfreak2 [-\]: white e6 seems easy now
]
;W[fn]C[lo [7k\]: that looks a bit wishywashy to me
BGAadmin [-\]: I would have expected either e6 or f5
Warfreak2 [-\]: f6 is ok shape, since b is only connecte with e7, allowing c6 connection
Warfreak2 [-\]: *connected
lo [7k\]: ok
Warfreak2 [-\]: f5 wouldn't have fixed the problem
Warfreak2 [-\]: f6 has the weakness of black f7, which threatens d7
lo [7k\]: hm, go is hard
Warfreak2 [-\]: black b6 could also be a problem
Warfreak2 [-\]: i prefer white e6 to f6
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;B[dm]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: this work?
Warfreak2 [-\]: i predict a riot
BGAadmin [-\]: Beyond my reliable reading
lo [7k\]: what if e7 e6 f7 f5 c6 ?
Warfreak2 [-\]: e7 b6 is the only option
zxcvbnm [1d\]: You'd e6 first
zxcvbnm [1d\]: b6 first*
zxcvbnm [1d\]: If you want to forcibly cut
BGAadmin [-\]: I was also looking at b4 for the shortage of liberties
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;W[em]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew has 30 minutes left. Daniel has 1:27
BGATeach [-\]: I seem to have lost contact with the clone.
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;B[bp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: the game is still there in the british room
BGATeach [-\]: I can see it on the list, but I cant open it
BGAadmin [-\]: we can still open it
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;W[cm]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]
;B[jb]C[BGATeach [-\]: I still cant open it. I will start another clone
eladzap [-\]: which tournament is this?
BGAadmin [-\]: British championship, first title match 
sh [4k\]: This is very big and sente
eladzap [-\]: doesn't the uk have a 6d?
BGAadmin [-\]: The BGA title is a big time commitment
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;W[hd]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Times 1:11 vs 22
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;B[hb]C[lo [7k\]: Once upon a time there was a 6d who won the title 21 times if I am correct :-)
BGAadmin [-\]: 25 times
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;W[he]C[lo [7k\]: Wow, that many, congratulations
sh [4k\]: Sounds someone like go seigen
BGAadmin [-\]: Not quite the same strength of opposition
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;B[hc]C[lo [7k\]: Overall players are stronger these days ?
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;W[ie]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Possibly, but I was more thinking that Europe is not as strong as Asia
lo [7k\]: I see
]
;B[hg]
;W[gc]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: k16 much better on outside here, but allows w to make a second eye
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;B[jd]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: maybe still better to enclose and force w to make that eye in gote
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;W[gd]
;B[jf]
;W[je]
;B[ke]
;W[ig]
;B[if]
;W[hf]
;B[gh]
;W[ih]C[BGAadmin [-\]: And with that Andrew is down to 10 minutes on the clock. Daniel has 1:05
lo [7k\]: ladder is a threat ?
sh [4k\]: Ladder is chaos
Warfreak2 [-\]: the ladder works for w, of course
BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew has 5 minutes on the clock
lo [7k\]: yes, so black needs to defend
Warfreak2 [-\]: j11 should do it
]
;B[kh]
;W[ii]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: i can't see any benefit of l12 over l13
lo [7k\]: how long can white postpone his second eye
Warfreak2 [-\]: quite long, i should think
Warfreak2 [-\]: b f15 is cut off on a large scale
lo [7k\]: ah
timhunt [?\]: I think W has 6 liberties.
timhunt [?\]: ON the E17 gruop
Warfreak2 [-\]: if b wants to kill w, he needs to also not give up f15 stones in a way that allows an eye
Warfreak2 [-\]: l12 ought to have been j11, i think
Warfreak2 [-\]: though i guess w can play a few forcing moves to save j13 and then cut at g11
BGAadmin [-\]: And black main time is done
BGAadmin [-\]: Black is in 10 stones in 10 minutes. Daniel has 1hr 4 minutes left
Warfreak2 [-\]: black is also in trouble
BGAadmin [-\]: If b runs to the h5 group, and w lives, b should be ok?
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;B[gj]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: w wants to save j11 in sente
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;W[hk]
;B[gk]
;W[hl]
;B[gl]C[lo [7k\]: g19 now ?
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;W[hm]
;B[ga]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: we have a semeai
BGAadmin [-\]: Not too many more moves to record I'd guess
Warfreak2 [-\]: unless it becomes ko!
lo [7k\]: we will soon see
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;W[fg]
;B[ff]
;W[fh]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: seki is also a possible outcome
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;B[gg]C[timhunt [?\]: With one eye v no eye, any only one shared liberty?
Warfreak2 [-\]: if b makes an eye
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;W[fi]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: d12 liberties could come into play
Warfreak2 [-\]: though not likely now
]
;B[gi]
;W[hj]C[mclp [2d\]: c19 goes to ko w needs threat i think
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;B[gb]C[mclp [2d\]: or ko no matter what order i guess^^
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;W[fl]
;B[jj]C[mclp [2d\]: actually think b is dead, b can't f19
Warfreak2 [-\]: b can f19 last
Warfreak2 [-\]: well, w can exchange j17 in sente
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;W[ki]
;B[ji]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Time tesugi. Second period of byomi
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;W[kg]
;B[kf]
;W[lh]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: another cut?
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;B[jh]
;W[jg]
;B[lg]
;W[ij]C[lo [7k\]: for the moyo ?
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;B[ca]
;W[gm]
;B[da]
;W[ic]
;B[jc]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: j19 seems worth doing
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;W[ia]
;B[ja]
;W[fk]C[lo [7k\]: so ko it is
Selozhd [-\]: No b is dead
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;B[kj]C[leachy [1k\]: no b died
lo [7k\]: ah right
narak13: he wants white to not be able to cut
lo [7k\]: hm, what next, an invasion on the right ?
Selozhd [-\]: w would probably play a lot more simple r5 maybe
]
;W[pd]C[lo [7k\]: :-)
Caesarion [7k\]: can he live there?
lo [7k\]: not the faintest idea
Warfreak2 [-\]: invading is the obvious play - the only way to lose sente is by living, and if he lives (which is likely), that's the game, he doesn't need sente
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;B[qc]C[lo [7k\]: how about r12 
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;W[mh]
;B[mj]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi number 3
BGAadmin [-\]: Daniel is on 45 minutes
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;W[nj]
;B[nk]C[mclp [2d\]: o11 seems good enough
mclp [2d\]: can net if b responds p9
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;W[mk]C[daisyrains: just joined, b seems busted
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;B[lk]C[maggrig [1k\]: Who is winning
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;W[lf]
;B[mg]
;W[me]C[Lice [5d?\]: huh... seems white is overdoing this
maggrig [1k\]: What ranks are the players?
BGAadmin [-\]: 4d
Lice [5d?\]: o11 instead of n9 would end this quietly
maggrig [1k\]: 4d wow nice
mclp [2d\]: well o11 after n9 would be fine
mclp [2d\]: but ye does seem a lot more risky this nonsense
mclp [2d\]: unnecessary
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;B[le]
;W[ng]
;B[mf]
;W[nf]
;B[lf]
;W[oj]
;B[ml]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]
;W[qf]
;B[ph]
;W[og]
;B[rf]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi 4
BGAadmin [-\]: Daniel has 25 minutes remaing
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;W[md]
;B[lc]
;W[qe]
;B[re]
;W[od]
;B[qd]
;W[pe]
;B[qo]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[oo]
;B[pm]
;W[on]
;B[qm]
;W[gq]
;B[kp]
;W[af]
;B[ad]
;W[er]
;B[fr]
;W[fq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi 5
]
;B[eq]
;W[dr]
;B[gr]
;W[hr]
;B[gp]
;W[hq]
;B[cr]
;W[gs]
;B[jn]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]
;W[in]
;B[jp]
;W[io]
;B[cs]
;W[qh]
;B[pi]
;W[rg]
;B[ni]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi 6. Daniel on 18 minuts
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;W[rj]
;B[rk]
;W[ri]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: anyone counted?
Warfreak2 [-\]: i guess w should be well ahead
BGAadmin [-\]: Looks like w to me
BGAadmin [-\]: By more than 20 (though my counting isn't great)
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;B[nh]
;W[qk]
;B[rl]
;W[pj]
;B[pk]
;W[oh]
;B[oi]
;W[qi]
;B[mi]
;W[ao]
;B[ap]
;W[an]C[Lice [5d?\]: hmmmm
]
;B[rp]
;W[rq]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: uh, a2?
Lice [5d?\]: alive
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;B[qq]
;W[pq]C[Lice [5d?\]: a2 only works with no outside libs
Warfreak2 [-\]: isn't it ko?
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;B[sq]C[Lice [5d?\]: no with 2 outside libs for b
Warfreak2 [-\]: how to live without ko?
Lice [5d?\]: a2 b2 a3 a1 b1 b3 
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;W[qr]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: a2 b2 c5 
BGAadmin [-\]: byomi 7
Lice [5d?\]: oh oh
timhunt [?\]: I think all black territory adds up to about 65. White has about 60 where he won the semia, and lots more.
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;B[nb]C[timhunt [?\]: Easy win for white.
Lice [5d?\]: you got me there
]
;W[ro]C[lo [7k\]: so white wins the ko on the right
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;B[pl]C[Lice [5d?\]: how about a pass
lo [7k\]: m3 looks better
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;W[kr]C[lo [7k\]: close
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;B[jr]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: m2
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;W[lr]
;B[kq]C[lo [7k\]: l6 
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;W[kn]
;B[ln]
;W[jm]
;B[mo]C[BGAadmin [-\]: for w, f10
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;W[ir]C[stoup [4k\]: A2
GEORGE [1k\]: why
BGAadmin [-\]: Only way to lose is if I forget the semei
]
;B[so]
;W[sp]
;B[ch]
;W[bh]
;B[rp]
;W[ar]
;B[br]
;W[sp]C[lo [7k\]: black can't win both ko's
BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi 8 (I think)
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;B[ci]
;W[bi]
;B[rp]
;W[co]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: wheeee
stoup [4k\]: ^^
]
;B[as]
;W[bs]
;B[cj]
;W[bj]C[GEORGE [1k\]: not really
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;B[as]
;W[sp]C[zealot [8k\]: black f10?
zealot [8k\]: ez win?
lo [7k\]: no, damezumari
zealot [8k\]: right
lo [7k\]: but a good try zealot
lo [7k\]: black still thinking ?
BGAadmin [-\]: yes. 
BGAadmin [-\]: Though white's forgotten their clock...
Lice [5d?\]: he is looking for a way to win both kos
timhunt [?\]: Yes, but if he does, he still loses on territory.
Warfreak2 [-\]: he is taking advantage of thinking on his opponent's clock
Warfreak2 [-\]: he knows he loses one ko, of course
BGAadmin [-\]: Or to make c9 as a 'ko' threat?
BGAadmin [-\]: hoping for something to go wrong and to be able to f10?
timhunt [?\]: That is the only way black can win.
timhunt [?\]: Needs a rip off
]
;B[aq]
;W[fj]
;B[rp]
;W[fa]
;B[ha]C[timhunt [?\]: Perhaps AS is hallucinating the territory count?
]
;W[sp]C[Warfreak2 [-\]: seems unlikely
lo [7k\]: now black has a ko threat at g15
Warfreak2 [-\]: probably resign now
]
;B[ck]
;W[bk]
;B[rp]
;W[lm]C[Selozhd [-\]: why didn't w just finish the ko?
lo [7k\]: no need
]
(;B[sp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Byomi 9?
Warfreak2 [-\]: gosh
timhunt [?\]: So, white winning the semiai is 65 points. Right is 10. Bottom is 10+. WIth komi, more than 90
BGAadmin [-\]: sorry; miclicked
])
(;B[mm]
;W[sp]
;B[qj]
;W[qk]
;B[rp]
;W[ld]
;B[kd]
;W[sp]C[timhunt [?\]: Black has less than 60 total.
timhunt [?\]: Even if he wins hte ko.
timhunt [?\]: And I don't see any W stones that can die.
lo [7k\]: anyway it was a good game
lo [7k\]: great to watch
timhunt [?\]: Yes. Thanks to both players. I am pretty sure I don't want to play a game with this many poeple watching.
BGAadmin [-\]: And Daniel's now in the last 10 seconds of main time (170 -ish moves after Andrew was)
]
;B[lq]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Both in byomi now
timhunt [?\]: I suppose that since this is game 1 of 3, Andrew may want to see how Daniel handles this sort of overtime.
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;W[js]
;B[rp]
;W[oc]
;B[ob]
;W[sp]
;B[jq]
;W[mq]
;B[rp]
;W[rd]
;B[rc]
;W[sp]C[BGAadmin [-\]: Andrew byomi 11ish
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;B[ks]
;W[ls]
;B[rp]
;W[sf]
;B[sd]
;W[sp]
;B[mr]
;W[nr]
;B[rp]C[wergoh: and since this is game 1, maybe W knew B wanted to see how he handled byo-yomi and W played different than normal to throw him off the track. but, B, sensing this could only pretend to want to know
BGAadmin [-\]: Daniel B2
]
;W[rn]
;B[rm]
;W[sp]
;B[ms]
;W[ns]C[timhunt [?\]: LOL
]
;B[rp]
;W[mc]
;B[mb]
;W[sp]
;B[ge]C[BGAadmin [-\]: And Andrew resigned rather than make Daniel take the stones off...
eladzap [-\]: he should let him take the stones off
eladzap [-\]: and than resigned
timhunt [?\]: Congrats Daniel.
Warfreak2 [-\]: funny final position for a game, then, with so many stones in atari
Warfreak2 [-\]: well played to both, and thanks to the relayers for showing us the game
BGAadmin [-\]: thanks for watching everyone!
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