(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]
GN[British Championship title match game 2]PW[Andrew Simons]PB[Andrew Kay]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2019-11-09]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Morning All
Macfadyen [?\]: This is Game 2 of the 2019 British Championship
Macfadyen [?\]: Andrew Kay leads 1-0 in the 3 game match, and has Black today
Macfadyen [?\]: Game conditions are 2 hoirs each plus 30 sec Fischer time added
Macfadyen [?\]: Play will start 10.30, lunch break around 1 for 1 hour
Macfadyen [?\]: UK time is now 10.19
Dreamrace [2k\]: 9+
Dreamrace [2k\]: sorry typo Hi Matthew
Macfadyen [?\]: Hi
Macfadyen [?\]: On previous form, we expect AK to rush around building a large sphere of influence, ignoring some dangerous looking attack on his group.
Macfadyen [?\]: Then AS will try to kill the group, and if h fails will try to live in the moyo. If AS succeeds in either he might win, if he succeeds in both he will win
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;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[dp]
;W[pd]C[Macfadyen [?\]: In any case, AK offers his opponents chances to win without having to play endgame
Macfadyen [?\]: Here we go
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;B[qf]
;W[qn]C[Dreamrace [2k\]: Oh`
Macfadyen [?\]: Wow, so fast. Often AS spends 20 minutes getting this far in to a game
Dreamrace [2k\]: W is in fighting spirit?
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;B[pk]
;W[qq]
;B[qp]
;W[pq]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Classical theory was that a symmetrical openng like the right side is good for Black
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;B[op]
;W[rp]
;B[ro]
;W[rq]
;B[qo]
;W[nq]
;B[nc]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]
;W[of]C[Dreamrace [2k\]: This is fast.
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;B[qd]
;W[qc]
;B[qe]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black has put a lot of stones on the right side. If this is territory it is big, but probably needs 2 more stones to be afe
Macfadyen [?\]: safe
Macfadyen [?\]: The top right joseki occurred in the first game, but with opposite sides
Macfadyen [?\]: in that game white connected q17
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(;W[nd]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This looks odd. Black can cut q17 and take a big corner
Macfadyen [?\]: time
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(;B[md]C[tugkan [3d\]: hi, it seems andrew is leading
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;W[oc]
;B[ne]
;W[od]
;B[rc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This feels bad style for White. He is being overly secure with his connection and becoming overconcentrated.
Macfadyen [?\]: S17 is huge. Stops r13 being a cutting point.
VIXX [8d\]: overconcentrated?
]
;W[mc]
;B[lc]
;W[nb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Yes, Black has outside stones on both sides, and Whites 4 eyed group has too little territory
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;B[cf]C[VIXX [8d\]: but it has few weaknesses, and b is rather thin on the outside
VIXX [8d\]: not bad at all for w
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;W[rn]C[VIXX [8d\]: more or less equal result though i suppose, actually b will need a little more on the outside to improve those 3 stones in order to equalize
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;B[pn]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I feel Black is getting round the board faster. 
VIXX [8d\]: both must want to play f17 so badly
Macfadyen [?\]: White would like to start a ko with s18, but at the moment he cant win the ko without being too overconcentrated. 
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;W[dj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I like q6, now its hard for White to continue in that area.
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;B[fc]C[VIXX [8d\]: hane :)
VIXX [8d\]: troublesome
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(;W[fd]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Another version of this joseki coming up
VIXX [8d\]: gets the cut? w can split b's groups then
Macfadyen [?\]: White will try to play the corner so he still has a good move around k17
VIXX [8d\]: with r6 becoming r5's only eye
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;B[gd]
(;W[fe]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Ah yes, I left a move out: try this:
VIXX [8d\]: much better hehe
Macfadyen [?\]: Top left might lead to a line which the old (500 year old) chinese games loved
Macfadyen [?\]: I dont know if these players study those games. Nowadays its all aphago
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(;B[dc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Incidentally, I thonk S6 was too soon, if he wanted to ply on the right side then maybe r9 was better
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;W[cc]
;B[ec]
;W[cd]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This line again
Macfadyen [?\]: In the first game, next play was g15.
VIXX [8d\]: hard to get ROI from n16 still
Macfadyen [?\]: ROI?
VIXX [8d\]: oh, return on investment
timhunt: Return on investment
Macfadyen [?\]: Perhaps start a ko at N18
VIXX [8d\]: g15 would still require a gote move around m16 as it stands
timhunt: I was looking at L16, but then I did not like it.
VIXX [8d\]: so b may be better off steering the fight with f15 towards the right by splitting
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(;B[dh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Heres the game
VIXX [8d\]: only problem with the cut is that w has lots of different ways to proceed, whereas b would like to carefully control those possibilities to defend value of n16
VIXX [8d\]: d12, nice
Macfadyen [?\]: AK will try to keep attacking the C16 stones as long as possible
Macfadyen [?\]: One way here is for White to play d18, live with the corner group so he oesnt care about the cut e16
Macfadyen [?\]: AS often goes for something more ponderous like:
Macfadyen [?\]: Whatever happens in this corner fight, there is a huge move around c7 for both sides to want
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(;W[df]C[VIXX [8d\]: the cut at e16 is less threatening than it seems though
Macfadyen [?\]: This is clean and clear. Whirte doesnt wnt to be cut.
VIXX [8d\]: w would simply take the outside and force b to play an extra move in the corner
Macfadyen [?\]: I am ok with White paying this, butonly if he plans to follow at h18 with a serious attack
Macfadyen [?\]: There is no pont in making groups this solid unless you plan to use them as a hammer to beat out your opponents eyes
VIXX [8d\]: well, it attacks c14
Macfadyen [?\]: Look at some of Kitani Monoru's games from 1950s  He played very slow and solid and then killed things
VIXX [8d\]: yup
VIXX [8d\]: how would you use that strength to invade at the top though?
Macfadyen [?\]: like this:
VIXX [8d\]: seems more logical if b had cut w
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(;B[dg]C[VIXX [8d\]: instead of h18
Macfadyen [?\]: J16 gets j18 and I dont see a follow up
VIXX [8d\]: gets j18?
Macfadyen [?\]: Whites problem is that he already invested d14, so the g16 stone is light and the cut at g17 uninteresting
VIXX [8d\]: problem?
VIXX [8d\]: i don't see why this is a problem for w
VIXX [8d\]: w has sente
Macfadyen [?\]: Yes he does. And C6 is huge, so why not just play it?
VIXX [8d\]: yep, possible
VIXX [8d\]: at a cost
VIXX [8d\]: looks like w just gets sealed in then
Macfadyen [?\]: White might try B14 here to settle his shape
VIXX [8d\]: so expect a few local followups first :P
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(;W[ic]C[Macfadyen [?\]: My biggest quarrel with AS's game is the way he will commit himself to a sequence, and then spend hours reading. This black reply was obvious, so white shouldnt play d14 without knowing what to do next. IMO Andrew s wastes huge amounts of time reading the wrong things
Macfadyen [?\]: This seems an OK idea, but it should have been plan A, not damage limitation.
VIXX [8d\]: hmm, d14 was good though
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;B[id]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Im going to make some coffee
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;W[jd]C[VIXX [8d\]: so many ways to proceed however
VIXX [8d\]: i tend to waste time as well when i have lots of options
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;B[ie]
;W[hc]C[VIXX [8d\]: trying to find the very best variation
Macfadyen [?\]: That is fine. But you should read the fight first, then play it. Not play the committing move, then decide if it works
VIXX [8d\]: oh i think he knew full well that it works
Macfadyen [?\]: AK is probably checking out the cut.
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(;B[gc]C[VIXX [8d\]: ?
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;W[kc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This was the normal idea. Notice there is now no ko.
nerub: so w has 2 corners and no pb ?
VIXX [8d\]: did w actually play j17?
VIXX [8d\]: it's too deep
VIXX [8d\]: absolutely no reason for w to play that way and damage the outside
nerub: come on
nerub: they are only 4d
nerub: they dont know what they doing
nerub: ^^
VIXX [8d\]: as in, receive a splitting attack? :P
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(;B[ef]C[nerub: b hoping to go after d10 ?
VIXX [8d\]: well, if b gets sente maybe
VIXX [8d\]: but w has sente last time i checked
nerub: isnt b b15 a pb now ?
VIXX [8d\]: ?
nerub: i mean if w tenuki, the corner still ok ?
VIXX [8d\]: if w tenukis here?
nerub: yes
Macfadyen [?\]: W can walk out first:
nerub: so what should w do now ?
nerub: c3 ? :P
Carl [-\]: D15
VIXX [8d\]: ^
nerub: i would c6 but what do i know 
Macfadyen [?\]: Come out with G15 is possible. Connect D15 not so attractive:
Carl [-\]: C6 is big but black isnt alive with D15
nerub: connecting 1 stone feels always so bad
VIXX [8d\]: always?
VIXX [8d\]: b's group is still weak
VIXX [8d\]: not connecting that 1 stone makes b's group much stronger
Macfadyen [?\]: AK's groups are usually weak, quite hard to kill though
VIXX [8d\]: and consequently both d10 and d16 much weaker
nerub: you just want to disagree with people
nerub: i know you teasing me
VIXX [8d\]: ?
Carl [-\]: i agree with vixx though
Carl [-\]: he cant be disagreeing with us both
VIXX [8d\]: thanks
nerub: of course you do
VIXX [8d\]: this should be obvious
VIXX [8d\]: well, weak groups can be exploited, if not by killing them, then in some other way, so
VIXX [8d\]: it that proves to be infeasible against AK
VIXX [8d\]: then perhaps weakness isn't the best term to describe those groups
VIXX [8d\]: :)
nerub: so now you would advice to just connect the stone ?
VIXX [8d\]: yes
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(;W[ge]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AK's advantage is he knows where to be sharp. You could see that at g17, where he thought for 5 minutes before playng the obvious move. He was looking at the k17 cut which happened not to work out too well
Macfadyen [?\]: AS is going for the split and be split line
Macfadyen [?\]: If the game all goes quiet with White getting C6, then it looks lke Black will need to complete the right side in one move
Macfadyen [?\]: This might be posible. Lets look:
Macfadyen [?\]: Just now, I wonder if Black is planning to cut?
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(;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[de]
;W[hd]
;B[he]
;W[gf]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[db]C[Macfadyen [?\]: OK this is the game.
Macfadyen [?\]: Looks like white needs the c15 atari, so it can become ko
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;W[ce]
;B[df]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]
(;W[af]
;B[ab]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black can play h13 etc as ko threats.
VIXX [8d\]: yup, better ko would be with b19 though
VIXX [8d\]: a14 at b19, that is
Macfadyen [?\]: is that ko?
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;W[ba]
;B[bc]
;W[bd]
;B[ad]
;W[ac]C[Macfadyen [?\]: anyway they have chosen a ko, so we can enjoy looking at q7 as a ko threat
VIXX [8d\]: c19 at e19 simply wins
VIXX [8d\]: yep, this is the one
Macfadyen [?\]: seki?
Macfadyen [?\]: I dont like this for white. Black ko threats at k18, h13.
nerub: this is so big so soon
nerub: game could be decided here
VIXX [8d\]: next time play the 1 stone connection ^^
VIXX [8d\]: prevents a lot of trouble
nerub: this was so obvious
nerub: only an idiot could say otherwise
VIXX [8d\]: but you said otherwise
VIXX [8d\]: :P
nerub: thats what i say
Macfadyen [?\]: and if White had to play connetion, maybe best just e16 instead of d14
VIXX [8d\]: oh haha
VIXX [8d\]: nope
VIXX [8d\]: d14 is far better than e16 really :)
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(;B[je]C[nerub: wait theres sth i dont understand
nerub: why isnt mcdadyen the one playing the title ?
Macfadyen [?\]: Black thinks this aims to captutre at h13
VIXX [8d\]: it captures either k16 or g14, yes
Macfadyen [?\]: White can answer at l15
VIXX [8d\]: nope
nerub: but can w allow a fight on the outside while the ko still hanging ?
VIXX [8d\]: it's hardly a threat actually
VIXX [8d\]: b could easily ignore it
Macfadyen [?\]: White has to accept he will lose the ko, and he needs to find something big enough on the outside.
VIXX [8d\]: there's still the hane at q7
Macfadyen [?\]: The exchange k15 for h13 will be a big loss for Black if white can take all the uppr centre
VIXX [8d\]: no it's a big win for b
VIXX [8d\]: but ok, bbl, hf :)
Macfadyen [?\]: White has to stop h13, he can try h13, h14 or j13. All look reasonable
Macfadyen [?\]: I think probably j13 is best
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(;W[hg]C[ifeng: hi
ifeng: hi
ifeng: left hand corner is a da jie
Macfadyen [?\]: Now that white is out into the centre, Black d12 group is isolated. Black has to win the ko
ifeng: yes
Carl [-\]: da jie is ko
Macfadyen [?\]: AK could give himself an easier time by using h13 as a ko threat
ifeng: oops
Macfadyen [?\]: then the whole lower left area starts to look blackish
Carl [-\]: we use japanese words
ifeng: if black deosn't win the ko, it may die
Macfadyen [?\]: too late now for Black j13, White can l15 and cover the weaknesses.
ifeng: ok...
ifeng: its a tight match
ifeng: black MUST win the ko
Macfadyen [?\]: absolutely. But White can lose the ko and be ok now that he has h13 in place. 
nerub: b messed up
Macfadyen [?\]: I like white q10 as a ko threat, hoping to wreck the right side in sente and then capture  j15 on a big scale
ifeng: teah
ifeng: yeah
Macfadyen [?\]: Black may be planning this line:
ifeng:  lot
Macfadyen [?\]: White can get an ok game by just playng a gote ko threat at k13
Macfadyen [?\]: so I dont like black k15
ifeng: right
ifeng: i dont really like igt
ifeng: it
ifeng: the ko is very big
Macfadyen [?\]: yes, and Black could win the ko anyway using his local ko threats, so dont give white a big centre as compensation
Macfadyen [?\]: Black should expect to lose the 3 stones j15, so bad to make them 4 stones
ifeng: if white win, there would be a chance that black would win
ifeng: sorry, black would win
Macfadyen [?\]: How about Black playing h12 as his ko threat instead of k15?
ifeng: make sence
Macfadyen [?\]: That way Black can take control of all the lower left while still fighting the ko
ifeng: tah
ifeng: yah
ifeng: if black win the ko, there would be a chance black would win
Macfadyen [?\]: Yes. Black has to take the money I think
Macfadyen [?\]: Perhaps he is now planning to fight the centre first??
Macfadyen [?\]: like this
Macfadyen [?\]: ive lostthe game...
Macfadyen [?\]: OK they have stopped for lunch at this point
nerub: b still hasnt play ?
ifeng: ????????????
ifeng: bye, i have to sleep
ifeng: see you another time
Macfadyen [?\]: xx
Macfadyen [?\]: Ive had lunch, but the players are still eating theirs.
Macfadyen [?\]: Black has just set himself a tricky problem with his ambitious ko threat at k15.
Macfadyen [?\]: Now the centre has become large, and black needs to look after both his upper left groups
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(;B[kd]
;W[jc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black will win the ko, getting 30 points in the upper left. White will use his ko threat to settle the centre
Macfadyen [?\]: Most likely that will involve about 40 white points, White also has th lower right and the komi, so Black will need 30 more points
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;B[lb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AK is gong for the cheap line. Nobody gets huge territory this way
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;W[ke]
;B[ld]C[Bigphenix [3d\]: what else besides L14 ?
Macfadyen [?\]: he might be thinking about g18:
Macfadyen [?\]: No, I agree L14 is the only sensible idea
Bigphenix [3d\]: I mean, after h18
Macfadyen [?\]: White does have another way:
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(;W[gb]C[VIXX [8d\]: um except q10 won't wreck the right side
Macfadyen [?\]: ok hes going for it
VIXX [8d\]: not even remotely
Macfadyen [?\]: black cant play f18 here, then l14 is too good
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;B[fb]C[VIXX [8d\]: yup l14 first, then f18
Macfadyen [?\]: But the players have another idea
Macfadyen [?\]: What can black do to L14???
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;W[kf]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Now Black has to win the ko, or White will win it in sente to ill D13
Macfadyen [?\]: kill
VIXX [8d\]: b can finish the ko now
VIXX [8d\]: w's best ko threat is likely q7
Macfadyen [?\]: yes but be careful. Black has local ko threats at h18, and White wants to play the actual best move at the bottom as his ko threat.
Macfadyen [?\]: Maybe just play T5 as a ko threat, then follow at F3 for a quiet small win
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;B[hb]
;W[ib]
(;B[ha])
(;B[ga]
;W[ia]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black is using up his ko threats
Macfadyen [?\]: Notice that Black needs to use H19 as well, otherwise E19 will kill him
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;B[bc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Now we will see how White assesses the count of the game
VIXX [8d\]: e19? but really, b is guaranteed to win this ko
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;W[pm]
;B[be]C[Macfadyen [?\]: im only saying that he cant mess around with threats like g13
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;W[on]
;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[mp]C[VIXX [8d\]: m14 is juicy, isn't it?
Macfadyen [?\]: I count the upper area plus komi as 20 points to White, the lower right 15 to white, the right side 15 to black. so black needs 20 points in the lower left while looking after his p4 group. Hard work
VIXX [8d\]: that's an extremely rough guess
VIXX [8d\]: the situation is hardly static
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;W[mn]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Yes, White might also play around p11 and expand the centre
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;B[lp]C[Bigphenix [3d\]: you didn't count upper left for black ? that should balance it
VIXX [8d\]: which is why b should really m14 in order to save that group while pressuring p15
VIXX [8d\]: but due to the exchanges on the lower side, w is now slightly better in that fight
Macfadyen [?\]: I counted upper left 30, centre 43 plus komi
VIXX [8d\]: unless said fight will turn out to span the whole board
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;W[kn]
;B[oq]
;W[or]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I expect White P11 and try to surround the centre
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;B[jp]
;W[pi]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This can get complicated, but maybe AS has ambitions to play s18 and fight a ko to kill r15 group
VIXX [8d\]: presumably q11 will be sacced
VIXX [8d\]: is w going to ignore b moving out to p12?
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;B[og]C[Macfadyen [?\]: cant sac it if Black p12 now
VIXX [8d\]: or p13
VIXX [8d\]: it's ambitious for w to handle both sides as much as he might ideally like
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;W[ng]C[VIXX [8d\]: sac it is
Macfadyen [?\]: Yes. I prefer q11 at p11 nd simply add 10 points to the centre
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;B[oi]C[VIXX [8d\]: why p11 though?
Macfadyen [?\]: Now AK will work up a big scale attack on the p6 group, so he has something to do
VIXX [8d\]: why not just push or keima?
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;W[oj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: both those let Black get to p11
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;B[nh]C[VIXX [8d\]: e.g. if w were to play p11, then what if b would have responded with the keima at o12?
]
;W[pj]C[VIXX [8d\]: disastrous
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;B[mg]
;W[nf]C[VIXX [8d\]: so?
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(;B[qh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: What????
Macfadyen [?\]: Was black afraid of s12??
Macfadyen [?\]: He had N11 to run out in sente
VIXX [8d\]: huh
Macfadyen [?\]: Now White can seal the top off again
VIXX [8d\]: um ello, isn't n14 obligatory for b?
Macfadyen [?\]: Loses quickly i think
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;W[ni]C[VIXX [8d\]: and then r12 thereafter
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;B[oh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: heres the game
VIXX [8d\]: compare that with r12 first and allowing w to play n14
VIXX [8d\]: big difference
Macfadyen [?\]: Now white gets a comfortable 15 point side and sente
Macfadyen [?\]: not sente
VIXX [8d\]: well, w needs sente to get more than 0 points there
VIXX [8d\]: so that's 0 points
Macfadyen [?\]: Looks like f18 lost Black 20 points
VIXX [8d\]: does it?
VIXX [8d\]: b gets a few kikashi
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;W[mi]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Yes. If he played L14 instead, then all the White 40 points in the middle would be 20 black, and the 25 black in the corner would be 10 white, thats 25 points better. White would get to kill d14 but black would have the right side still
VIXX [8d\]: those aren't points
Macfadyen [?\]: they are now, they are white points
VIXX [8d\]: no lol
Macfadyen [?\]: And Black still needs f3 to keep his p4 stones safe
VIXX [8d\]: that's very far from unconditional territory
Macfadyen [?\]: Yes.
VIXX [8d\]: it's not helpful to think only in terms of points
Macfadyen [?\]: Im just looking at s11/s10 which is very big indeed for whoever gets to play there first
VIXX [8d\]: go situations are more often than not more clearly described along different dimensions thant hat
VIXX [8d\]: well, that's more likely an endgame move
Macfadyen [?\]: yes s10/11 is endgame, but very near to being sente for both sides
VIXX [8d\]: not after n14
VIXX [8d\]: b can easily live in sente
VIXX [8d\]: while escaping with n16 group
VIXX [8d\]: and/or capturing either p14, p16, or both
VIXX [8d\]: though that would be gote surely, so escape it is
VIXX [8d\]: not much is left then of white's supposed points in the center
Macfadyen [?\]: No, I was expecting N11 at N12. Then White follows at P9 to take the Black q9 stone tightly
Macfadyen [?\]: Now we expect N12, N14 and then black has one stone to make something of the lwer left
VIXX [8d\]: n14 n12 q18 r18 s18 q19 n18 p18 l13 k14 m12 l10 m10
VIXX [8d\]: all more or less forced
VIXX [8d\]: looks like b comes out ahead after all
Macfadyen [?\]: some mistake surely?
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(;B[mh]
;W[mf]C[VIXX [8d\]: including L18
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;B[in]C[Macfadyen [?\]: The players thought otherwise
Macfadyen [?\]: heres the game
VIXX [8d\]: not sure what that seq was but it doesn't work for w
Macfadyen [?\]: Lots of choices again
Macfadyen [?\]: yes, I missed L18
VIXX [8d\]: hence why i think aforementioned sequence is more or less forced
VIXX [8d\]: tough to spot in-game though, granted
VIXX [8d\]: but wow
VIXX [8d\]: to omit n14 for several moves
VIXX [8d\]: feels so unnatural to me haha
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(;W[cq]
;B[cp]
;W[dq]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[fq]
;W[fr]C[VIXX [8d\]: i wonder why e4; there was potential territory for b around h3
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;B[fj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I think g9 now is an easy win for White without fighting
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(;W[fl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This is the fighting shape, and probably ok
Macfadyen [?\]: AK will try to kill this stone
]
;B[fp]
;W[gr]C[Macfadyen [?\]: That exchange gives White a good shape move at H4.
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;B[gl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AK is very inventive in this sort of position
VIXX [8d\]: g9? hmm, note that even here some aji still remains in the center
VIXX [8d\]: b might get some unexpected kikashi still
]
;W[gm]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Looks like White can make the h4 threat worth an extra move here, so he should escape.
Macfadyen [?\]: like this:
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(;B[fm]C[Macfadyen [?\]: OK A Kay has cut
VIXX [8d\]: h4 h3 g3 g4 h5 j3 h6 
Macfadyen [?\]: G9 looks obvious
VIXX [8d\]: he might attempt to gain power on the left to fight n6 group
]
(;W[em]
;B[fn]
;W[gk]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Not much fight against n6 with t5 available
]
;B[fk]C[VIXX [8d\]: well
VIXX [8d\]: if w is forced to play t5
]
;W[hl]
;B[el]C[VIXX [8d\]: that's almost like a pass
VIXX [8d\]: in terms of points
VIXX [8d\]: so that's already good profit for b
Macfadyen [?\]: But he needs an answer to h4
VIXX [8d\]: some b presence in the c enter, then r9
]
(;W[ho]C[VIXX [8d\]: why is that
VIXX [8d\]: that depends
]
;B[hp]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Now h4 gets G4??
VIXX [8d\]: i don't know what that means
Macfadyen [?\]: Perhaps White wants to play g5 then j4??
VIXX [8d\]: perhaps
VIXX [8d\]: still a bit insignificant though once r9 becomes sente
Macfadyen [?\]: Then g10 is sente and m12 takes the whole centre
VIXX [8d\]: nah it doesn't
VIXX [8d\]: ^^
VIXX [8d\]: oh well
VIXX [8d\]: i suppose disagreeing is simply what we do :3
Bigphenix [3d\]: the result so far is 1-0 for AK ?
Macfadyen [?\]: Yes, and its a 3 game match, so AS needs this one to stay alive
Macfadyen [?\]: This is AS's time management problem again. He had a choice of h4 and H5, and he had to do the reading before choosing
Macfadyen [?\]: Actually h4 seemed to cut cleanly
]
;W[fi]
;B[ei]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AS seems to be playing to surround the centre
]
;W[gj]
;B[gl]
;W[io]
;B[ip]
;W[fl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Theres some nasty liberty shortage coming up:
]
(;B[dl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: have to play d7 first.
]
;W[jo]
;B[kg]
;W[jg]
;B[kh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: K3 makes sure g5 aims below
]
;W[go]
;B[ir]
;W[dm]
;B[gl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: looks like white has something here
Macfadyen [?\]: j2 at h3 would avoid some of the liberty trouble
]
(;W[kp]
;B[kq]
;W[fl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: White has found an extra ko threat or two
Macfadyen [?\]: But now Black can make eyes at the bottom
]
;B[cl]C[melkhiresa [1d\]: also it's a bit more dangerous for white's corner, isn't it?
]
;W[fo]
;B[en]C[Macfadyen [?\]: actually white can just play b4, b3 in sente and then either l10 or s11 is big enough
Bigphenix [3d\]: even if black keeps what he has on left, 74 points. White has about 70. Without counting any points around L9
]
;W[ri]
;B[kj]
;W[rh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: white has to be a bit careful of k14 becoming a move
]
;B[rg]
;W[qb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: now s18 would steal the eyes
Macfadyen [?\]:  but black can make an eye in the centre
]
;B[rb]
;W[li]
;B[ki]
;W[bq]C[Macfadyen [?\]: whites last chance to throw it all away. H HAS TO STOP K14 NOW
]
;B[bp]
;W[ap]
;B[ao]
;W[aq]
;B[jf]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AARGH
]
;W[if]
;B[lf]
;W[hf]
;B[le]C[Macfadyen [?\]: THAT WAS BIG
Macfadyen [?\]: now recount
]
;W[ek]
;B[gl]
;W[ko]
;B[lq]
;W[fl]
;B[ej]C[asdfgdy: close
Lacan [1d\]: black seems to have caught up
Macfadyen [?\]: the komi may well prove necessary
Bigphenix [3d\]: 61/68
]
;W[bo]C[Macfadyen [?\]: t5 is pretty big for when things cool a bit
]
;B[bm]
;W[eh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: and s19 threatens blacks eyes
]
;B[gl]
;W[hr]C[Macfadyen [?\]: this does not threaten to kill
]
;B[hq]
;W[fl]
;B[di]C[Macfadyen [?\]: r19 is sente for both sides
]
;W[an]
;B[dn]
;W[lk]
;B[kk]
;W[so]
;B[qi]
;W[qj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: i dont think white needs the komi
Lacan [1d\]: can white give his komi to the poor
]
;B[kl]
;W[ra]
;B[sh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: a bit late. now Black can fool around with N7
]
;W[rj]
;B[re]
;W[ll]
;B[lj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: AK has lost the will to live
]
;W[mj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black n18 forces N15 and vice versa
Bigphenix [3d\]: 11 or 12,5
]
;B[oo]C[Macfadyen [?\]: M2 is next big point
]
;W[nn]
;B[lr]C[Macfadyen [?\]: now we see another reason why t5 was big - the corner doesnt need eyes
]
;W[mr]
;B[ms]
;W[nr]
;B[ns]
;W[os]
;B[ls]
;W[pr]
;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[me]
;W[mb]
;B[fh]
;W[hs]
;B[is]
;W[sb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: is k7 bigger or g11?
]
;B[sd]
;W[gi]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I agree with AS
]
;B[km]
;W[lm]C[Macfadyen [?\]: now down to the 2's and 3's
]
;B[gn]
;W[fg]
;B[eg]
;W[hn]C[Macfadyen [?\]: so it loks like were getting a third game to enjoy
]
;B[im]
;W[il]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]
;B[jm]
;W[ii]
;B[gh]
;W[hh]
;B[ij]C[Macfadyen [?\]: L18 is biggest
]
;W[ha]
;B[gb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: So AS was extremely ahead when he blindered and allowed k14. and Blacks last big chance was to ignore G18 and have the top area all reversed
]
;W[ik]
;B[jj]
;W[hj]
;B[lo]
;W[ln]
;B[jh]
;W[ih]
(;B[co]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[si]
;B[sg]
;W[kb]
;B[bn]
;W[ao]
;B[la]
;W[eo]
;B[ma]
;W[na]
;B[ka]
;W[ja]
;B[fl]
;W[po]
;B[sc]
;W[pn]
;B[sa]
;W[qa]
;B[sb]
;W[gg]
;B[eh]
;W[do]
;B[gq]C[Macfadyen [?\]: just dame now
]
;W[ph]
;B[qg]
;W[gp]
;B[lg]
;W[oe]
;B[ji]
;W[pe]
;B[jl]
;W[jk]
;B[jn]
;W[no]
;B[mo]
;W[lh]
;B[ff]C[Macfadyen [?\]: counting...
]
;W[dr]C[Macfadyen [?\]: White wins by 8.5
Macfadyen [?\]: See y'all for the decider
Dreamrace [2k\]: Than kyou Matthew
])
(;B[bj]))
(;W[gp]
;B[gq]
;W[fl]
;B[cl]C[hhpauli2 [-\]: certainly
]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]
;B[bq]
;W[cm]
;B[bl]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]
;W[do]
;B[ap]
;W[co]
;B[iq]
;W[br]))
(;B[dl]
;W[go]
;B[kh]
(;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[eo]
;B[dn]
;W[co]C[Macfadyen [?\]: No, doesnt quite work yet
])
(;W[dm]
;B[cl]
;W[bp]
;B[bo]
;W[co]
;B[do]
;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]
;W[hq]
;B[hr]
(;W[dn])
(;W[cn]
;B[bq]
;W[dn]
;B[ap]
;W[eo]
;B[iq]
;W[br]C[Macfadyen [?\]: And ko at the bottom
]))))
(;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[ip]
(;B[io]
;W[jo])
(;B[jo]
;W[go]
;B[gp]
;W[ir]
;B[gn]
;W[io]
;B[jn]
;W[hn])))
(;W[gk]
(;B[el]
;W[hl]
;B[fn]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[go]
;B[hq]
;W[io]
;B[hn]
;W[jo]C[Macfadyen [?\]: trouble for black
])
(;B[hl]
;W[fk]C[Macfadyen [?\]: no good for Black
])))
(;B[hl]
;W[hp]
(;B[ho]
;W[gp]
;B[go]
;W[jo]
;B[io]
;W[ip]
;B[gq]
;W[hr])
(;B[jn]
;W[ho]
;B[gn]
;W[fn]
;B[go]
;W[hm]
;B[hn]
;W[im])))
(;W[gk]
;B[fk]
;W[gl]
;B[fn]
;W[io]
;B[jo]
;W[jn]
(;B[hn]
;W[gq]
;B[fp]
;W[hp]
;B[iq]
;W[hr]
;B[lr])
(;B[ho]
;W[im]
(;B[gn])
(;B[hn]
;W[gj]))))
(;W[ob]C[VIXX [8d\]: the result is that the whole white group dies
]))
(;B[mf]
;W[mh]C[VIXX [8d\]: oh noes, uphill for b
]
;B[pb]
;W[me]C[comfyditch [1k\]: how capapable an analyst is  Macfadyen??
]
;B[le]
;W[lg]
;B[pc]
;W[ob]
;B[qb]
;W[mb]
;B[ma]
;W[lf]
;B[me]
;W[oe]C[Macfadyen [?\]: looks ok for White to me
]))
(;B[mf]
;W[mh]
;B[kg]
;W[jf]
;B[lh]
;W[mi]C[VIXX [8d\]: it was a rhetorical question :P
]
;B[ji]
;W[rh]
;B[rg]
;W[rb]
;B[qb]
;W[pb]C[VIXX [8d\]: suppose just the n14 n12 exchange
Macfadyen [?\]: I dont think Black can hang on to this
])))
(;W[gb]
;B[kf]
(;W[fb]
;B[bc]
;W[le]
;B[lf]
(;W[ac]
;B[hb]
;W[ib]
;B[bc]
;W[mf]
;B[me]
;W[ac]
;B[gg]C[Macfadyen [?\]: doesnt look good to me
])
(;W[rs]))
(;W[ae]
;B[fb]
;W[ha]
;B[ea]
;W[ca]
;B[kb]
;W[da]
;B[jb]
;W[fa]
;B[ga]
;W[bi]
;B[hb]
;W[ei]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This may be ok
Bigphenix [3d\]: it seems behind on points by quite a lot
Macfadyen [?\]: they have played
]))
(;W[kf]
;B[hb]
(;W[jf]
;B[ib]
;W[if]
;B[bc]C[Bigphenix [3d\]: black may connect under,  but this solves a lot of issues
Macfadyen [?\]: Black still has to fight the ko, but he is alive at the top
Bigphenix [3d\]: maybe white can resist j18 to force black 
Macfadyen [?\]: I still expect White to get q10 ko threat and wreck the right side
])
(;W[ib]
;B[ia]
;W[gb]
;B[kb]
;W[ha]
;B[ja]
;W[jf]
;B[jb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: j18 fails:
Bigphenix [3d\]: I see
Bigphenix [3d\]: ok then ^^
])))
(;B[kd]
;W[jc]
(;B[lb]C[ifeng: yah...
Macfadyen [?\]: this way black can squeeze
ifeng: hmm...
ifeng: yah!
]
;W[ke]
;B[ld]
;W[kf]
;B[hb]C[ifeng: i am only 1k
]
;W[jf]
;B[ib]
;W[if]C[ifeng: hope to go 1d
nerub: cant j18 ?
]
;B[sn]C[ifeng: oh yah
nerub: i hope i can date a victorias secret model but we cant all get what we want i life
Macfadyen [?\]: Now Black is alive at the top, but he still needs to win the ko to look after D12
])
(;B[ig]
;W[lb]
;B[ih]
;W[hi]
;B[hh]
;W[gh]
;B[gi]
;W[fi]
;B[gj]
;W[fh]
;B[bc]C[ifeng: yah
]
;W[ii]
;B[kh]
;W[ac]
;B[hf]
;W[gg]
;B[bc]C[ifeng: but what if the black around d 13 die
Macfadyen [?\]: Black wil have to ignore a ko threat somewhere, but at least he gets to contest the upper centre
ifeng: it got surrounded
]))
(;B[bc]
;W[jg]
;B[be]C[ifeng: okay...
]
(;W[nh]C[ifeng: absolutely
]
;B[ph]
;W[cn])
(;W[ke]
;B[cn]
;W[pj]C[Macfadyen [?\]: or this way
ifeng: er...
Macfadyen [?\]: L15 makes points:
])))
(;W[ke]
;B[hg]
;W[gg]
;B[gh]
;W[hf]
;B[ig]C[VIXX [8d\]: then g15 dies
Macfadyen [?\]: oops
nerub: no way out ?
])
(;W[hg]C[Macfadyen [?\]: now perhaps r13 is an ok threat for White, escalating so he captures lots with his ko threat
]
;B[kd]
;W[jc]
;B[lb]
;W[ke]
;B[ld]
;W[kf]C[Macfadyen [?\]: this is ok for white
VIXX [8d\]: yeah, but b won't allow it
]))
(;B[hg]
;W[gg]
;B[bc]
;W[pm]
;B[gh]
;W[hf]
;B[be]
;W[on]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This would be an easy game for Black 
ifeng: yah
Macfadyen [?\]: k15 is still available here
ifeng: it change
]))
(;W[ba]
;B[ad]
;W[bc]
;B[be]
;W[gb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This is simply a white win
VIXX [8d\]: w dies that way
]
(;B[hg]
;W[gg]
;B[gh]C[VIXX [8d\]: ? no it's not
]
;W[hf]
;B[ig]
;W[if]
;B[cn])
(;B[fb]
;W[hb]
;B[ca]
;W[ea]C[Macfadyen [?\]: 4 beats 3
VIXX [8d\]: yeah, in this particular variation
VIXX [8d\]: but you made a mistake
])))
(;B[sn]C[VIXX [8d\]: if w played g15, then w is going to suffer
Macfadyen [?\]: if blck plays here to take the side (obviously not yet)
]
;W[pj]
;B[qj]
;W[qk]
;B[rj]
;W[pm]
;B[ok]
;W[sm]
;B[so]
;W[qm]
;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[nm]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Perhps Black can hang on to all
])
(;B[ed]
;W[ee]C[VIXX [8d\]: black must cut
]
;B[de]
;W[hd]
;B[he]
;W[gf]C[VIXX [8d\]: of course
]
;B[hg]
;W[gg]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[db]C[VIXX [8d\]: w just ends up dying and running for gote life 
]
;W[ce]
;B[ba]
;W[df]
;B[hb]
;W[ib]
;B[de]
;W[bc]
;B[bf]
;W[df]C[Macfadyen [?\]: ???
]))
(;W[ge]
;B[hd]
;W[gg]
;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[df]C[VIXX [8d\]: well, if w tenukis, then it's not really w's corner yet
]
;W[bb]C[VIXX [8d\]: then again, w can escape into the center so
VIXX [8d\]: it's not super urgent 
Macfadyen [?\]: I guess this is the sort of thing AS is aiming at
])
(;W[de]
(;B[gg]
(;W[bf]
;B[cl]C[VIXX [8d\]: b14?
VIXX [8d\]: no way
Macfadyen [?\]: Black gets the big points
VIXX [8d\]: b14 is very meek
nerub: meek ?
Macfadyen [?\]: B14 is biggest endgame to live in the corner
VIXX [8d\]: w doesn't want to live ni the corner
nerub: lol
VIXX [8d\]: that whole idea is much too submissive for me anyway
Macfadyen [?\]: Better to come out though
])
(;W[gf]
;B[ge]C[VIXX [8d\]: w should just cut 
]
;W[ff]
;B[hf]
;W[fg]C[VIXX [8d\]: yup
Macfadyen [?\]: Black is cut and White has plenty of eyes.
]))
(;B[be]C[Macfadyen [?\]: But AK will play here and try to kill C16
]
;W[fg]C[Macfadyen [?\]: White should run out easily
])))
(;B[mb]
;W[ld]
;B[nc]
;W[me]
;B[mc]
;W[ma]C[Macfadyen [?\]: doesnt work
])
(;B[ge]
;W[ff]
;B[je]
;W[ld]
;B[cl]C[Macfadyen [?\]: White is hoping to get a splitting attack .
Macfadyen [?\]: But really neither Black group looks attackable.
]))
(;B[jc]
;W[gc]
;B[hd]C[nerub: who do you think is better now ?
]
;W[jb]
;B[kc]
;W[fb]
;B[eb]
;W[gb]
;B[cb]
;W[ea]C[VIXX [8d\]: well, b if w invades too deeply
]
;B[fa]
;W[ga]
;B[da]
;W[fa]
;B[bb]
;W[ed]
;B[db]
;W[bc]
;B[kb]
;W[ib]C[Macfadyen [?\]: not enough for black
]))
(;W[bf]
(;B[de]
;W[ef]
;B[ce]
;W[be]
;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[cg]
;W[gg]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Corner is alive
])
(;B[ef]
;W[de]
;B[bg]
;W[ce]
;B[cg]
;W[cn]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Not sure that exchange is really a gain for White
]))
(;W[cn]
;B[de]
;W[ef]
;B[ed]C[VIXX [8d\]: after d13
]
(;W[ee]
;B[ce]
;W[bd]
;B[bf]
;W[db]
;B[eb]C[VIXX [8d\]: or just the cheeky kosumi at c11
]
;W[cb]C[VIXX [8d\]: haha
]
;B[hc]
;W[gg]C[Macfadyen [?\]: ???
])
(;W[ce]
;B[ee]
;W[cg]
;B[bf]
;W[bg]
;B[ff]
;W[eg]
;B[fh]
;W[be]C[Macfadyen [?\]: No good for White
])))
(;B[dg]
;W[hb]
;B[hc]
;W[gb]
;B[gc]
;W[ic]
;B[id]
;W[jc]
;B[de]
;W[ed]C[VIXX [8d\]: this is great for b
]
;B[hf]C[VIXX [8d\]: w has 2 problems, but can solve only 1
VIXX [8d\]: which suggests it's an overplay, to invade at h18 so early
]
;W[jd]
;B[fg]
;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[da]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Looks a bit soon
Macfadyen [?\]: ok they have played
VIXX [8d\]: how about j16 though?
]))
(;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[cb]
;B[fh]
;W[hb]
;B[hc]
;W[gb]
;B[gc]
;W[ic]
;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[de]
;W[gf]C[Macfadyen [?\]: like this
])
(;W[ed]
(;B[hc]
;W[fi]
;B[fh]
;W[gh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: looks quite nice for White but
])
(;B[fh]
;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[hb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Now Black has eyeshape at the top, and White might end in gote. too ponderous fr me, White spending 2 moves doing 1 job
])))
(;B[ed]
;W[ee]
;B[de]
(;W[gc]
;B[gb]
;W[hc]
;B[cb]
;W[bb]
;B[db]
;W[bf]
;B[be]
;W[ce]
;B[bc]
;W[df]
;B[bd]
;W[cg]
;B[hb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Black can try cutting immediately:
])
(;W[ch]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[df]
;W[bb]
;B[db]
;W[ac]
;B[eg]
;W[gf]
;B[hd]
;W[fh]C[Macfadyen [?\]: I cant read this properly
])))
(;B[ec]
;W[dc]
;B[dg]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[df]
;B[bf]
;W[bd]
;B[bc]
;W[db]
;B[ad]C[VIXX [8d\]: oh, around huang longshi's time
Macfadyen [?\]: like this. Next White can cut g17 for security or attack j17 to kill all
]))
(;W[pm]
;B[qm]
;W[on]
;B[rm]
(;W[po]
;B[sn]C[VIXX [8d\]: yep
])
(;W[sn]
;B[po]
;W[so]
;B[om])))
(;W[pm]
;B[qm]
;W[on]
;B[po]
;W[rm]
;B[ql]
;W[so]
;B[om]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Hane gets the cut.
]))
(;B[pc]
(;W[oc]
;B[pb]
;W[mc]
;B[pe]
;W[od]
;B[qb]C[Macfadyen [?\]: too good for Black?
])
(;W[pb]
;B[oc]
;W[rc]
;B[od]
;W[pe]
;B[qh]
;W[ne]C[VIXX [8d\]: oic, so kay to your left, simons to your right? :P
]
;B[ob]
;W[qa]
;B[kc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: Also good for black, he has time for r12 so the right side is almost territory
])))
(;W[pc]C[Macfadyen [?\]: This was the first game. White has a cut at r13 and Black has a cut at q15. Neither works convincingly yet but the positiion remained unstable for a long tie
]))
