(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[gGo:1.0]ST[1]GN[European Pair Go Championships, round 4, Manja Lindemeyer 2d + Michael Marz 3d (DE2 3d) vs Jana Hricova 1k + Ondrej Silt 6D (CZ 3d)]
SZ[19]KM[6.5]
PW[epgc1]WR[6d]PB[epgc1]BR[6d]DT[2005-04-23]PC[IGS-PandaNet]
C[Trinity151 [2k\]: mhmm
Wuschelein [9k*\]: i hope next one is benni again
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^
tom111 [11k\]: it is not
Wuschelein [9k*\]: :(
tom111 [11k\]: manja and micha again
Wuschelein [9k*\]: hmmm :/
tom111 [11k\]: exclusive coverage of german pair go :)
Wuschelein [9k*\]: exclusiv coverage of the best it is ;)
tom111 [11k\]: does anyone know any results so far beside the ones we have seen ??
tom111 [11k\]: who's leading etc...
epgc1: Video should be working now. Board is still empty tho.
tom111 [11k\]: now watch out for that black fuseki !!! :)
epgc1: Manja says hi.
Wuschelein [9k*\]: say hi back
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^
tom111 [11k\]: hi manja
Fluxor [9k*\]: hi manja :)
tom111 [11k\]: viel erfolg ... :)
epgc1: so danke
Wuschelein [9k*\]: you wanted to collect some results when i remember correctly
Wuschelein [9k*\]: :D
epgc1: tanja - onegaishimasu]
;B[oe]
;W[dp]
;B[np]
;W[ec]
;B[ei]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: ahhh ondrej
Wuschelein [9k*\]: :)]
;W[cd]
;B[fp]
;W[dn]
;B[fn]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: cz is white?
epgc1: Yes.
Wuschelein [9k*\]: thx
Wuschelein [9k*\]: go black go :D
derp [2k*\]: which players moved first?
epgc1: :-)
epgc1: The women go first]
;W[el]
;B[fl]
;W[fk]
;B[ek]C[derp [2k*\]: thanks]
;W[dl]C[epgc1: Michael to play]
;B[gl]
;W[gk]
;B[dk]
;W[hk]
;B[hn]
;W[ck]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: you can see that manja went first
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^]
;B[cj]C[epgc1 undid the last move (C12) .]
;W[cl]
;B[ch]
;W[bj]
;B[gi]
;W[jk]
;B[ij]C[epgc1 undid the last move (J9) .]
;W[hi]C[epgc1: Pairs currently on 3/3: Ente+Teuber DE, Hricova+Silt CZ, Lindemeyer+Marz DE]
;B[hj]
;W[gj]
;B[gh]
;W[ik]C[epgc1: UK Bexfields on 1/3.]
;B[ii]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: thank you very much]
;W[jn]
;B[jp]
;W[ci]
;B[ej]C[Harleqin [NR\]: uh
Harleqin [NR\]: why not d11?
epgc1: A Manja move.
epgc1: Jana to play
tom111 [11k\]: then w gets a ponnuki in sente which is probably equally bad ...]
;W[pp]C[tom111 [11k\]: or worse
Harleqin [NR\]: that ponnuki is not worth much
saxifrage [NR\]: because, Harleqin, it's gote to take the stone]
;B[po]C[StPatrick [3k\]: ponnuki should be open
Harleqin [NR\]: blacks shape would be much better with d11]
;W[qo]
;B[pn]C[StPatrick [3k\]: the clock is quite loud on the webcam]
;W[op]
;B[no]
;W[qn]
;B[qm]C[epgc1: They've moved it nearer
epgc1: We're trying a higher angle. Better/worse?
StPatrick [3k\]: can't you get rid of it?  :-)]
;W[qq]
;B[pl]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: lol
StPatrick [3k\]: it's ok normally i turn off the sounds
epgc1: Manja takes off her glasses.
StPatrick [3k\]: could be a mistake?]
;W[om]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: stpatrick right get rid of it, white is losing anyway they don't need a clock]
;B[pm]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: :D
StPatrick [3k\]: white can fight their way back in]
;W[nn]
;B[oo]
;W[ki]C[epgc1: Andrej played that stone very firmly.]
;B[jh]C[Harleqin [NR\]: well i guess he has to contain his feelings about o6]
;W[lh]
;B[lk]
;W[kk]
;B[lj]C[StPatrick [3k\]: Ondrej was online late last night^^*]
;W[ji]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: better than drunken in the pub
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^
Wuschelein [9k*\]: wait how old is ondrej?]
;B[ph]
;W[ih]
;B[hh]C[epgc1 undid the last move (H13) .]
;W[ig]C[Trinity151 [2k\]: 19?]
;B[bi]
;W[dj]C[saxifrage [NR\]: old enough to like good beer :)
Wuschelein [9k*\]: okay then he can get into the pubs
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^]
;B[di]C[tom111 [11k\]: and here we se the reason for e10 :)
StPatrick [3k\]: this is too small surely
Harleqin [NR\]: could have been directly d11 without hassles
epgc1: Order of players has gone wrong - 3 pt penalty? But black followed in sequence.
epgc1: So white Jana continues.]
;W[cj]
;B[gf]
;W[ie]
;B[gd]C[epgc1 undid the last move (G18) .]
;W[ic]
;B[gb]
;W[cg]C[StPatrick [3k\]: nice clamp
epgc1: Connection getting laggy (video upload?) sorry.
Wuschelein [9k*\]: so is there a penalty or not?
epgc1: I don't think so. It was decided amongst players without a ref.
StPatrick [3k\]: how do the penalties work?
epgc1: I don't know - they said it was 3 for playing out of turn.]
;B[dg]C[epgc1: That was Manja.]
;W[bh]
;B[cf]
;W[dh]
;B[ed]C[epgc1: Now Jana to play ]
;W[dc]C[epgc1: She checked it was her turn first tho.]
;B[bg]
;W[ch]C[epgc1: Andrej connects
epgc1: Manja ]
;B[eh]
;W[df]
;B[de]C[Harleqin [NR\]: that's a lot of cash for white]
;W[eg]
;B[ef]
;W[dg]
;B[ce]C[tom111 [11k\]: wow
tom111 [11k\]: fearless
Harleqin [NR\]: ummmm]
;W[fc]
;B[gc]C[Harleqin [NR\]: i think i have to repeat my statement...
tom111 [11k\]: ...
Observing game 78 (epgc1 vs. epgc1) :
       jansteen 5d*              kona NR            Mcgreag 5k    
           derp 2k*            tom111 11k        Wuschelein 9k*   
     Trinity151 2k            Jagobah 22k            retesz 11k*  
            jah NR          guest7805 NR          saxifrage NR    
         Medice 16k*        guest8039 NR           leikkele 2d    
      guest8003 NR          guest7633 NR         ComesATime 3k    
      guest8070 NR            MailSgf NR          guest7461 NR    
       Harleqin NR              riaan 16k*        StPatrick 3k    
     greatyetti NR           GOTintin 11k*            Basti 2d*   
         Jeylan 22k               abz 3d*             aogin 7k*   
        hotaru9 3k*               mjs 13k         guest7935 NR    
      BlueSmoko 1k*         guest8128 NR          guest8132 NR    
Found 36 observers.]
;W[fe]C[epgc1: Jana in the middle!]
;B[fd]C[epgc1: B is ok? Amazing.]
;W[fg]C[epgc1: Doesn't seem like many eyes.
Harleqin [NR\]: this was ondrej?
epgc1: Yes.
epgc1: Manja sighs.
tom111 [11k\]: does anyone understand b13 ?]
;B[hf]
;W[if]
;B[bc]
;W[bd]C[epgc1: Manja thinking long about this]
;B[fb]C[epgc1: Still 25m for black, 30m for white]
;W[bb]
;B[cb]
;W[cc]
;B[ib]
;W[ff]
;B[ba]
;W[ac]
;B[hc]
;W[id]
;B[da]
;W[ge]C[epgc1: Andrej takes the money!]
;B[be]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: still a ko for white
Wuschelein [9k*\]: isn't it?
Fluxor [9k*\]: I see ko too
jansteen [5d*\]: white alive by double-ko]
;W[ea]C[jansteen [5d*\]: e19 and a19]
;B[eb]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: thanks]
;W[db]
;B[fa]
;W[ca]C[jansteen [5d*\]: so rest of the game black's strongest player can play :)
epgc1: Have your cake the eat it too.
Wuschelein [9k*\]: hrhr]
;B[hd]
;W[he]
;B[cb]C[choreck [6k*\]: A19 ?
StPatrick [3k\]: why not Q17?
epgc1: Jana to play]
;W[ee]C[StPatrick [3k\]: oh
StPatrick [3k\]: does that work?]
;B[ca]C[epgc1: Andrej is smiling.]
;W[dd]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: no it doesnt
Fluxor [9k*\]: A14 ko]
;B[oc]C[Wuschelein [9k*\]: b 1 lib short
Wuschelein [9k*\]: :)
StPatrick [3k\]: then it's huge
epgc1: Jana sighs.
Wuschelein [9k*\]: come on a partner change tesuji
Wuschelein [9k*\]: ^^
Observing game 78 (epgc1 vs. epgc1) :
       jansteen 5d*              kona NR            Mcgreag 5k    
           derp 2k*            tom111 11k        Wuschelein 9k*   
     Trinity151 2k            Jagobah 22k            retesz 11k*  
            jah NR          guest7805 NR          saxifrage NR    
      guest8039 NR           leikkele 2d          guest7633 NR    
     ComesATime 3k          guest8070 NR            MailSgf NR    
      guest7461 NR           Harleqin NR              riaan 16k*  
      StPatrick 3k         greatyetti NR           GOTintin 11k*  
          Basti 2d*            Jeylan 22k               abz 3d*   
          aogin 7k*           hotaru9 3k*         guest7935 NR    
      BlueSmoko 1k*         guest8132 NR             Fluxor 9k*   
       letsplay 4k*           joachim 1d*           manveru 22k   
            cae 7k*           MethoDX 22k   
Found 38 observers.]
;W[ae]C[StPatrick [3k\]: sigh
epgc1: !
StPatrick [3k\]: not even K18
Fluxor [9k*\]: black A14 created a Ko, no?]
;B[cq]
;W[jb]C[epgc1: Andrej played that firmly]
;B[ha]C[epgc1 undid the last move (D3) .]
;W[dq]
;B[bp]
;W[dr]C[ver7igo [1d*\]: hello
ver7igo [1d*\]: anybody home?
epgc1: hello
ver7igo [1d*\]: are there any results online?
epgc1: Not yet.
ver7igo [1d*\]: will there be some today?
epgc1: We hope so - will try to get them posted on the BGA site.
ver7igo [1d*\]: also aboiut the live camera:
ver7igo [1d*\]: it would be nice to have both flags visible
ver7igo [1d*\]: right now only one is
epgc1: Theres only one flag because only one of the p[airs is "official"
ver7igo [1d*\]: oh, sorry
ver7igo [1d*\]: and when both are official there are two flags?
epgc1: Last year and this year it became an open tournament, so countries could send as many pairs as they like.
ver7igo [1d*\]: i understand, sorry for the missunderstanding
epgc1: But each gets to nominate one official pair, thats gets subsidised and a flag :-)]
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