(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[gGo:1.0]ST[1]GN[European Pair Go Championships, round 5, Jana Hricova 1k + Andrej Silt 6d (CZ, 3d) vs Lisa Ente 3d + Benjamin Teuber 6d (DE, 5d)]
SZ[19]KM[6.5]
PW[epgc1]WR[6d]PB[epgc1]BR[6d]DT[2005-04-24]PC[IGS-PandaNet]
C[Observing game 446 (epgc1 vs. epgc1) :
        joachim 1d*          guest417 NR              edlee 7k*   
        Ariel74 5k*         dreamer21 8k             tom111 11k   
           Xere 1k*   
Found 7 observers.
edlee [7k*\]: hi brian ?
epgc1: hi
Trinity151 [2k\]: hello.
edlee [7k*\]: Hi Is the video lag better today than yesterday?
epgc1: Good morning!
leikkele [2d\]: Hi
epgc1: I've turned the datarate down a bit, so it should keep up better.
edlee [7k*\]: morning! is it still brian today?
epgc1: Yes, Its me again. Doing the marathon:-)
epgc1: We've just had the briefing, so now we're only waiting for all the players.
edlee [7k*\]: video shows 2 flags, table ready for some action :)
jansteen [5d*\]: good morning Brian, which flag is that on the right?
tom111 [11k\]: what book is andrej studying ?
tom111 [11k\]: tsumego ?
edlee [7k*\]: is that the CZ flag on the right?
tom111 [11k\]: yep
epgc1: No, its Princip Lol2A, Rene Egil - "its about life"
epgc1: Yes.
epgc1: Sorry the flags are a bit droopy!
tom111 [11k\]: )
epgc1: I should just totally give up annoucing the scheduled start times :-(
tom111 [11k\]: when go one day is broadcasted live on eurosport you probably need better flags
jansteen [5d*\]: it adds to the tension :)
edlee [7k*\]: someone just tried to prop up the CZ flag. was it u brian? maybe some scotch tape would help
epgc1: That was me. All the flags are like that though.
epgc1: That was Geoff, the tournament director. He started the clock!
edlee [7k*\]: apple juice
tom111 [11k\]: but black can't play since its jana's turn ?
epgc1: Jana and Andrej are here, but where are Lisa and Benjamin?
jansteen [5d*\]: ah good!
tom111 [11k\]: uh oh
epgc1: Their clock is running, and the time limits are 45m sudden death:-(
edlee [7k*\]: yikes
Trinity151 [2k\]: hmm :((
edlee [7k*\]: traffic ?
tom111 [11k\]: break breakfast fast !
epgc1: The hotel is only a 15m walk from Hitachi, so it shouldn't be traffic.
jansteen [5d*\]: webcam says my computer is too slow :)
edlee [7k*\]: jan: it says that sometimes. ignore it and refresh :)
epgc1: Lisa has just come into the room.
jansteen [5d*\]: ok :)
epgc1: Benjamin is still walking.
jansteen [5d*\]: it's a stupid habit, go players are always late
edlee [7k*\]: what's that paper beneath the IGS sign?
Trinity151 [2k\]: Benjamin is always late ^^
epgc1: Thats a leaflet for the European Go Congress in Prague, 23rd July - 6th August.
edlee [7k*\]: ah
epgc1: Jana is advertising it.
epgc1: Benjamin just arrived.
edlee [7k*\]: one black stone at Q16 ?]
;B[pd]
;W[dc]
;B[pq]
;W[po]C[epgc1: Andrej says the Germans are always late!
edlee [7k*\]: ah. now we know the lag.. :)
Trinity151 [2k\]: right :)]
;B[np]
;W[qq]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[or]
;W[ql]
;B[co]
;W[dq]C[jansteen [5d*\]: there we go!]
;B[fp]C[edlee [7k*\]: video shows 1st W stone
epgc1: We're all posing for a photograph.]
;W[do]
;B[dp]
;W[ep]
;B[cp]
;W[eq]
;B[eo]
;W[dn]C[epgc1: (well the players were continuing playing)
epgc1: But Anna and Charlotte came in for it.
edlee [7k*\]: i hope lisa's feeling better today. less sniffy nose?
epgc1: She has no tissues, so I guess so.]
;B[cq]
;W[fq]
;B[fo]
;W[hq]C[epgc1: is F5 joseki?]
;B[ho]
;W[cn]C[honk [3k\]: yes
honk [3k\]: h5 is aparently not though]
;B[bn]
;W[bm]C[honk [3k\]: according to kogo
epgc1: This result looks good for W to me (1d) - the rh black influence getting reduced?
honk [3k\]: now black can get shut in.]
;B[an]C[honk [3k\]: who played h5?]
;W[cl]C[epgc1: Lisa just played..
epgc1: So I guess it was Jana]
;B[dr]
;W[er]C[edlee [7k*\]: video shows Jana played h5  :)]
;B[cr]C[honk [3k\]: k
honk [3k\]: hmn]
;W[jq]
;B[em]C[epgc1: that was Benjamin]
;W[dj]C[epgc1: sorry, I mean that!
honk [3k\]: :)
epgc1: Jana to play
honk [3k\]: K5 seems urgent to me]
;B[jo]C[epgc1: seems a little slow perhaps?
honk [3k\]: hmn the attack W at K5 would have been destructive i think
honk [3k\]: maybe
honk [3k\]: K16 big now
epgc1: Lisa to play]
;W[lq]
;B[dl]
;W[dk]
;B[en]
;W[cm]C[epgc1: Back to Andrej]
;B[lo]C[honk [3k\]: Linking up groups is always good]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]C[jansteen [5d*\]: white getting first to o17 is a success]
;W[jd]
;B[ci]C[jansteen [5d*\]: now k16 and white is better
epgc1: Lisa gets the Hoshi point :-)
epgc1: I'm sure one could write an article about the great psychological importance in Go of getting the hoshis
honk [3k\]: lol]
;W[bo]
;B[bp]C[honk [3k\]: so moves like D7 are....
epgc1: Back to Lisa.
honk [3k\]: :P
honk [3k\]: C11 seems funny but i find it hard to find a good response
epgc1: I suppose B needs to invade that gap, and its good to use the most severe one]
;W[di]
;B[cg]C[jansteen [5d*\]: just pincer it (c14) and while walking towards the center the n5 aji might come alive
epgc1: Benjamin to answer]
;W[dh]C[epgc1: doesn't running to the centre allow black to make good use of the influence?
jansteen [5d*\]: white choses to give black a small group along the side]
;B[bj]
;W[bk]C[epgc1: B10 was Jana, now its Andrej
jansteen [5d*\]: but white c14 is good for the top and when walking white n5 is troublesome
jansteen [5d*\]: besides, black would have a weak group as well
epgc1: OK.]
;B[dg]
;W[ce]C[jansteen [5d*\]: now we get the running fight anyway
honk [3k\]: now whites group will come under attack too
epgc1: Looks like it might happen. 
honk [3k\]: (as if it wasnt aready :P)
epgc1: Jana to play
jansteen [5d*\]: just ikken tobi
jansteen [5d*\]: leave all moves at the top for later
honk [3k\]: w has to walk too so no danger for black?
edlee [7k*\]: F13 is better than F12? is F12 overplay?
jansteen [5d*\]: f12 leaves a weakness]
;B[fg]C[jansteen [5d*\]: defend with ikken-tobi, attack with keima :)
epgc1: Lisa now
edlee [7k*\]: yea i was thinking of attacking W. but B still a bit weak yet, so f13 ?
honk [3k\]: attacking with a weak group leads to desaster. i have tried it :)
jansteen [5d*\]: would white h10 be too much here?
honk [3k\]: uh 3 pt jump?
yapee [7k\]: g11?
honk [3k\]: so fast :)
edlee [7k*\]: jan, instead of g10 u mean?
jansteen [5d*\]: yes
jansteen [5d*\]: in most fights white can live independantly since b8 already is an eye]
;W[gi]C[epgc1: Andrej now. He adjusts G11 stone position slightly]
;B[hg]C[epgc1: Lisa has her tissues out again - still a cold :-(]
;W[ii]
;B[jg]C[epgc1: Jana just kept marching
jansteen [5d*\]: this kind of game is quite hard to play
honk [3k\]: can white keep black separated from the top right corner?
kkllmnmn [1k\]: ?]
;W[ki]C[honk [3k\]: probably not]
;B[hd]
;W[if]C[epgc1: B has 30m on the clock, white has 22m.
jansteen [5d*\]: peeping here makes n5 aji less likely since black can k10 later
epgc1: Ah. Now why cant I think like that.
jansteen [5d*\]: without j14 peep, k10 would not be for free]
;B[hf]C[jansteen [5d*\]: ok, now it's all a different story
epgc1: That was Jana!
edlee [7k*\]: jan, what was B's strongest reply to J14 peep ?
jansteen [5d*\]: just connect usually
honk [3k\]: "even a fool...."
yapee [7k\]: ins't this one good
yapee [7k\]: ?
jansteen [5d*\]: after connect white g15 seems severe but actually it's easy to live at the top
edlee [7k*\]: so something like H12 (and then K12) is not as good because it kills k11 aji ?
jansteen [5d*\]: right
edlee [7k*\]: thx
jansteen [5d*\]: when you just connect later you can return the favor with h10 and k10 peeps
edlee [7k*\]: i see, thx
yapee [7k\]: why didn't black ikken tobi again anyway earlier?]
;W[ef]
;B[eg]C[jansteen [5d*\]: and with those two peeps in the center it seems like 15 points for free there
epgc1: Now Benjamin to consider
honk [3k\]: w couldve taken big points at the side i think
edlee [7k*\]: jana looks like she's freezing
jansteen [5d*\]: instead of l11, honk?
epgc1: It was too warm yesterday, but now they've turned the air con up
honk [3k\]: if black played another jump
honk [3k\]: instead of h16]
;W[bf]
;B[bg]C[epgc1: Back to Lisa
jansteen [5d*\]: yes, i think h16 was good, to disturb a simple play by white
epgc1: Andrej went to get another orange drink]
;W[ie]
;B[ec]C[honk [3k\]: "attach to defend"
epgc1: B still 28m, W only 16m.]
;W[eb]
;B[dd]C[epgc1: Actually Jana took her wooly off to leave the room]
;W[ed]
;B[fc]
;W[fd]C[epgc1: Now we are waiting for Jana to come back
epgc1: Andrej taking chance to leave too.
edlee [7k*\]: oh it looks like apple juice on the video :)
epgc1: No its a sort of fizzy orange from a vending machine. Hitachi sets it on free vend tho.
edlee [7k*\]: ah, compression turned orange to apple drink
epgc1: Its a very nice venue - we have a yearly Maidenhead tournament here was well.
epgc1: Jana has returned, and Andrej
honk [3k\]: heh
honk [3k\]: time for some ads
epgc1: sorry, Benjamin
honk [3k\]: :P
epgc1: Yes, note the careful placement :-)
honk [3k\]: :)]
;B[fb]C[honk [3k\]: good tourneys in england i have to say
honk [3k\]: been in malborough and oxford]
;W[cc]
;B[gd]
;W[ig]C[epgc1: Benjamin cuts
honk [3k\]: white can take away any eyes at A12
honk [3k\]: oh nvm]
;B[ih]
;W[jh]
;B[hh]
;W[hi]C[honk [3k\]: K17?
yapee [7k\]: doesn't c14 give life right away? or is he already alive?]
;B[kg]
;W[mi]C[honk [3k\]: c14 seems to work i think]
;B[ke]C[honk [3k\]: so miai]
;W[kd]C[Doteki [18k\]: time for w and b?
epgc1: Back to Jana
epgc1: w has 12m, b 19m]
;B[mg]C[Observing game 446 (epgc1 vs. epgc1) :
         tom111 11k           joachim 1d*        Trinity151 2k    
       jansteen 5d*         kozlinsky NR            Pirahna NR    
       leikkele 2d              edlee 7k*          stoepsel 18k   
             fj 6d             Sander 4k*          scribble 5k*   
           honk 3k           guest796 NR                Its NR    
       guest834 NR              GOMTC 8k*         guest9507 NR    
       GOTintin 11k*            yapee 7k           guest880 NR    
       guest879 NR             Doteki 18k          Shishiku 21k   
       guest910 NR           guest245 NR           guest926 NR    
       guest928 NR           malgosia 3k*            toktok 3k*   
         REEPER 22k          guest985 NR             Fluxor 9k*   
      guest1025 NR           guest997 NR    
Found 35 observers.]
;W[ic]
;B[hb]
;W[ne]
;B[og]C[honk [3k\]: R11]
;W[pc]C[epgc1: Andrej straightedned K16L16]
;B[qc]
;W[od]
;B[pe]
;W[qi]
;B[pb]
;W[ob]
;B[oc]C[epgc1: we love kos
Shishiku [21k\]: is E14 not a big move for black?
epgc1: b 17m, w 10m
edlee [7k*\]: e14 when? e14 has a w stone now.]
;W[nh]
;B[ng]
;W[pc]C[epgc1: Jana
edlee [7k*\]: andrej is the only one wearing short sleeves now. :)]
;B[pi]
;W[pj]C[epgc1: I just put my jacket on]
;B[oc]C[honk [3k\]: :)
epgc1: Benjamin]
;W[nb]
;B[oi]
;W[oj]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]
;B[ri]
;W[qj]
;B[rg]C[jansteen [5d*\]: seems the white team needs to hurry up]
;W[nn]C[jansteen [5d*\]: are you allowed to tell your partner to hurry up?
epgc1: 7/8m left.
epgc1: Yes! 
edlee [7k*\]: "time is passing"  ?  :)
jansteen [5d*\]: ah, that's good]
;B[lp]C[epgc1: that was Jana]
;W[mq]
;B[no]
;W[mm]C[epgc1: Jana to play. b13m, w 6m]
;B[jj]
;W[ji]C[edlee [7k*\]: someone comment on n7 please?  :)]
;B[km]
;W[hl]
;B[ek]
;W[fl]
;B[ld]C[epgc1: that was Andrej]
;W[lc]
;B[md]
;W[nd]
;B[jb]C[epgc1: ouch]
;W[lf]C[epgc1: Jana to play. b 11m, w 4m
epgc1: n14?
epgc1: Jana almost played it, but drew back]
;B[mf]C[jansteen [5d*\]: shape]
;W[ib]
;B[ia]
;W[kb]C[jansteen [5d*\]: do we witness another last-minute kill?
epgc1: Thrill a minute-)
epgc1: Jana stands up and then leans over the board.]
;B[mb]C[epgc1: w4m b7m]
;W[mc]
;B[je]
;W[jc]
;B[ja]
;W[ka]C[jansteen [5d*\]: now it's alive]
;B[db]C[honk [3k\]: ufff
jansteen [5d*\]: n18 was wrong]
;W[cb]
;B[ea]
;W[ha]C[jansteen [5d*\]: Brian, what are the clocks?
pajaro [4k*\]: hi, is this the same game on the webcam?
epgc1: yes, its built uip delay]
;B[ca]C[epgc1 undid the last move (A16) .]
;W[bd]C[leikkele [2d\]: M19 would have killed?]
;B[id]
;W[el]C[jansteen [5d*\]: any move, except n18 :)
leikkele [2d\]: :)]
;B[nq]
;W[mr]
;B[rr]
;W[rq]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[pp]
;W[qo]
;B[sh]
;W[rj]
;B[sj]
;W[rk]
;B[bb]C[jansteen [5d*\]: t10 better than s10]
;W[ae]
;B[fi]
;W[fj]
;B[fe]
;W[ee]
;B[ff]
;W[de]
;B[ll]
;W[mk]
;B[lk]
;W[lj]
;B[ei]
;W[ej]
;B[ni]
;W[mh]
;B[nj]
;W[nk]
;B[il]
;W[ik]
;B[jk]
;W[im]
;B[jl]
;W[hm]
;B[jp]
;W[ir]
;B[ij]
;W[hk]
;B[bc]
;W[cd]
;B[hj]
;W[gj]
;B[ac]
;W[ad]
;B[aj]
;W[am]
;B[ao]
;W[cj]
;B[ch]
;W[ip]
;B[io]
;W[hp]
;B[gp]
;W[gq]
;B[lh]
;W[li]
;B[mj]
;W[lg]
;B[le]
;W[kh]
;B[kf]C[epgc1 undid the last move (Q17) .]
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